It seems that today in sport, people have an opinion that they almost refuse to change. It's almost like it's a mental block for them to contradict their past words, even if it is a positive. If I criticize somebody or something, but my criticism is later proved wrong, I'll hold my hand up and admit I got it wrong and see the positives (if there are any) in my opinion being proved wrong.

Since Kev first came in, people have said 'he's too small', 'he can't tackle' and 'he's way out of his league'. Since then, after an impressive start, he's been shot to pieces by supporters from all corners, so badly that no matter what he does, people will just refuse to acknowledge anything positive he's done. I suppose that's the way sport is nowadays, people with their magnifying glasses only notice the costly errors over the many positives, people seem to expect perfection from some players, but have nowhere near the same standards for others. The Aussie's, Penny and Briers all seem to have these expectations that they do no wrong no matter what, they could have a game where 9/10 things they do is positive and quality, but the one mistake will be highlighted above all.

I've not seen Kev play since he's been back from Widnes, I'm sure he's not been half as bad as people make him out to be, but unfortunately, it seems that people will always refuse to change their opinion on Kev, unless he becomes the best player in the world.

TS sent him to Widnes to improve his game as he was miles off SL grade. If you had watched the Wakefield game you would have concurred and realised this improvement has some way to go. Yep the lad is fast, and because of this exciting, but he's so very raw and does not possess skills at the moment to warrant an SL jersey.

give the guy a break, has the guts to get on the pitch and has speed to burn,
IMHO I would take all responsibility away from KP catching the ball from the start (fear of a knock on) place him where he can run in open play, let him have the freedom of the field, let him run up and down to enjoy the wind in his hair well sort of, I do think he will do well in the final if you don't mess with his head, give him open ground and he will run for ever

beginning to sway your way go wires

wow are that quick

yeah but prior to that you stated he will never make a rugby league player. I doubt that will be the last time your wrong.....

If you look over last season and this, Chris Riley makes more errors then Kevin Penny, but that will be ignored. Riley also cost us a try in the semi which helped Wigan get a sniff...ignored again, he got rinsed last week by Amos Roberts...ignored again. If any of these had happened to Penny we'd be getting threads like these. It's disgusting. I'd like to point out that I'm not having a pop at Riley just pointing out that all players make mistakes but some are unfairly singled out.

Some players are good but at different levels.Maybe kp level is national league 1.Dont slate him he a warrington lad who does his best.A season long loan maybe good for him maybe.

This is only a fair conversation to have when we have something to judge him over, over a period of time.

Everyone else, has had circa 20 games under Smith now, so we can make pretty good assesments of the ones that have kicked on under Smith, gone backwards under Smith, don't fit the new mantra, need to show more, whatever.

To judge someone on one appearance, completely unfair. If that's how it goes, one crack, one judgement. Well, we'd have had to have found a new squad after Harlequins away.

He might go, we might never get this opportunity, then we'll judge him from afar, fair enough. If he does stay, I hope he works hard over the winter, I hope he forces his way in next year, and he gets the same opportunity to win the critics over like Monghan, King, Harrison, Cooper, Briers, Riley and co have done on here.

12 Months back, when he had problems, missed matches. The vibe was, don't know what he is, doesn't do anything, get rid. Folk on here were demanding to know, they had a right to know what was wrong with the lazy beggar. A year in sport is a long time. Crikey, folk have been pushing Westwood out of the door on here in the last month, he's been immense for three years.

and what division does ben black play in???when did you see cock ups like that in super league..

I remember Martin Gleeson doing the exact same thing from a 20-metre restart within the last 12 months.

How too be-little a player. Look at the last 8 pages in this thread. How too get a player too have no confidence. look at the last 8 pages of this thread.