The most annoying thing for me, for all the money spent on reinventing this team, our best player is Josh Thewlis and we are playing him out of position and readily dropping him. Last year for Wrench (centre/SR) and Minikin (centre) and this year for Russell and again Wrench.

Behind that, Ashton, Walker and Wrench are bright sparks too, all pre-dating the need to cull. The only players here on the back of the current regime’s recruiting that is delivering to the required standard are Vaughan and you could argue Kasiano and Harrison in spells.

Got to say that it was poor today and what worries me most about this performance is the complacent attitude of our players. They thought, with 1 man down, that the game was won. I think Powell and the players need a hig performance next game to appease the fans who are rightly concerned now given our form over the past 2 months.

I'm still Powell in as I believe he needs the opportunity to turn things around, but I also empathise with those who are disillusioned and want change. If he were to be sacked now, then we'll never truly know whether he was the right choice.

Absolutely this. Powell is a very poor judge of player

Nah man we’d know now he was the wrong choice

Genuine question, no trolling or petty nonsense.

Based on what you have seen so far, from the appointment in April 2021 through to today, should he get a contract renewal at the end of the season, or should the club be looking for replacements?

Thewliss was your best player today

Thewlis was the best player on the field including both teams, ironically!

I'd say he should be given to at least the end of the season to turn things around. If it's still like this around the playoff time, then I would support the club if they wished to change manager. I think, at this point, he has just about enough credit in the bank.

I'm also getting a bit concerned with the performances of Paul Vaughan who doesn't seem the same. Big game next week.

Thewlis is clearly a rugby player, he will be an excellent super league player for a top side. Anyone can see this. Powell likes to keep him on the periphery and sign a full back when Thewlis should be nailing that spot as his own for a decade. I conclude Daryl Powell is out of his depth. Get gone.

Let’s not forget Cooper Hill and Clark forced out (SLs best front row) and the likes of Minkin, Russell and now Dwyer brought in. Has he got money on us getting worse? Buffoon and a buffoon board.

Maybe don’t flog Vaughan for 60 mins when he’s clearly having a stinker then? Would you have persisted with him today as a coach?

Yes, big game next week but also a game against a poor Cas team and an opportunity for a few kicks up backsides.

Drop Dufty, Thewlis to FB, Russell to wing
If Drinkwater is back, drop Matautia

Won't happen, but it should.

And drop Ratchford as well, permanently.

Mata'utia should be out, wrench wasn't good today but he needs to play to develop. I don't personally believe he has shown that he will be good enough so it's sink or swim. Dufty was better today, ashton and thewlis are our best wingers bringing Russell in only weakens us IMO, he's back up and nothing more. In fact if Powell drops thewlis for Russell ever again, I'm straight in the Powell out camp, I don't have the patience for that sort of decision making anymore.

Fair enough. Not sure where the credit in the bank comes from, but that’s your thoughts.

For me, I convinced myself that I had been wrong about 2022 on the strength of a really fast start. But looking back, Leeds we’re poor, Huddersfield appear to be doing what we did last year, Salford almost got us and probably would have but for the sin bin, and we had Leigh and Hull either side of a huge win against an under strength Catalan team, which remains the stand out. Leigh and Hull I think we got at the right time as they have both improved massively since. You can only play the cards that you are dealt, but I’m concerned that there may have been an overvaluation of the starting form and the reality is biting.

I’m not overly concerned with Vaughan. His stats have generally proved me wrong when I thought he had a quiet game. He’s still out best forward by a distance.

Does Clarke deserve to be dropped now his head is at St Helens????