as mentioned on the other saints thread if we go go with the same squad and style that has not worked for us most of the season are we really expecting a different outcome ?

Matautia is awful, full stop. I wish Saints the very, very worst. Why do the pundits think we all enjoy seeing the same team win it every year.

Saints won’t beat Catalans.

Fair play to the lads, it was a good effort. We were always up against it but that wasn't as comfortable a win as I expected for saints.

Allez les catalans.

Williams obviously playing injured.

Shudda played the young lad instead.

Again, poor team selection.

not the reason we lost as bad as he is he is no worse that the team and style of play we have employed for the past 2 years

I think drinkwater is limited but Williams has been a huge disappointment for me - certainly not worth the money he's cost.

Can’t fault the effort on show today.

We're a couple of players off being able to compete. We need a better 4 than Ratch and a better 11 than Currie. 2 genuinely creative players in those positions and we're in with a chance.

Never said he was the main reason, but there's no doubt he's one of the weaker links.

Over on the comedy club (Redvee) they not having it they are just crap it’s Thaler that is lol

Discipline, fitness and resilience need some serious attention. Twice we gave away a penalty while we’re on their line and they’re under pressure. Twice Welsby breaks on kick return. Stupidity from Williams and Drinkwater on those penalties.

We need to learn to be comfortable in chaos. That’s just to stop leaking points, not even starting in the lack of creativity.

Effort was there, completed well, but give ourselves too much to do.

I'd guess Williams is carrying quite an injury. Missed our two big props. A great improvement on last year. Loads of effort but not good enough really.

Well we can stop taking the tramodol the pain is over for this season.

I'm surprised at the negative currie comments. I don't see him as being the problem at all