Think Butler might cop a ban for you aswell…led with the elbow and certainly didn’t miss Crowther about 5 minutes into the 2nd half…fair play to Crowther who didn’t try milking anything out of it…more trying to show it didn’t hurt! Not sure whether you’d see that as a good thing or bad like with Hughes?

On the flip side we’ll be missing Johnstone through concussion protocol and have 4 other wing options out injured…Escares loan is up but Jowitt is back and he’s had a brilliant start to the season…Fifita could have a nervous wait on the disciplinary though as one of his late tackles didn’t look good…he would be a major miss!

Can you be as bad again next week? We can certainly be as good and our major strength this season has been our fitness and finishing games strong…whole new back room team has see unreal results on that score along with a great team spirit…looking forward to it!

I admire your Dunkirk spirit, but anyone who can't see we have issues is deluded. There are players in that team who are no longer fit for purpose, and others who look very much square pegs and round holes. Accepting mediocrity is a sure way of perpetuating it.

One observation I'll make, everyone was going silly about that video that was released from his first meeting with the squad, happy that he was saying the right things (I'm sure price had a similar one on his first day).

One of the things highlighted was not panicking and falling apart (like what happened in the kr play off game) and he's mentioned it again after all 3 losses now, we're playing bad and now we're panicking/collapsing even more.its got worse not better.

Agreed, we seem to throw any game plan out of the window, as soon as we go behind. Screams of a lack of leadership on the field.

"Deluded"
"Accepting mediocrity"

Bingo!

I think there's been a lot of objective points raised in what needs improving, rather than "massive overreactions from a hell of a lot of fans". Yes, there's still a long way to go in 2022 and there were good things done in yesterdays game, but overall were heading in the wrong direction. Hopefully, yesterday was DP's tipping point, as Harlequins away was for Tony Smith, but there's no guarantee it will.

You probably have a cupboard full of 100% attendance merit badges, and "Best 3rd Place" medals.

Sport is about winning. Second place belongs with second rate and no-one ever became champions by shrugging their shoulders and saying "that'll do". The club strives to be the best off the field but seems happy to be impotent on it.

Exactly - we lose playing the so called "top players" so may as well lose giving the young players a chance.

This is surely a pee take...or someone who as downed a keg load of beer

100% give Riley dean a run out as well as the other young lads..give widdop a mop and bucket to wash out the changing room

Oh come on.It’s not as if Mulhern has set the world alight and as for Clark he’s been woeful but can’t knock your optimism.

No i've just looked at the game without emotion, yeah everyone knows we aren't clicking and players are off form but i've seen that turn around loads of times with lots of squads. Seems most Warrington fans have got to the stage that if things aren't perfect immediately anymore they need moving on straight away. Powell gets a pass from me this year, he's not stupid and knows where we need to strengthen. Once he gets rid of more deadwood at the end of this season he can actively buy more players we need. And no that isn't deluded it's realistic.

Mulhern is still better than Philbin or Butler so it is an improvement. Clark seems to be injured alot this year which is hampering his fitness etc. If he can get consistant game time he'll get back to form. But yeah our forward pack is gonna be an issue this whole seson which we all spotted before the season started. Bullock was going well for us so it's a shame he's injured, and with Philbin being off form and seemingly lost his impact we're pretty goosed.

I actually think butler is better than mulhern and he played better yesterday than Philbin has in the previous 5 games. Philbin yesterday though was probably a little bit better than butler.

It’s all immaterial . Let’s stop analysing the individual games or performance. It’s a fact we lack quality and we have digressed for some time. The truth is the problem is far more widespread and we’ve been in decline for a while. The reason imo is because we are on a vanity project and there’s a need for sanity.

The money spent trying to find a half back combination is frightening for the last 3/4 years. Start with the pack and that allows your attacking players to play. It then breeds confidence

The game at times is simple but complicated by over analysing. Not been a team that’s won the wholly grail of a grand final without a decent pack for the half’s to play behind

Ask any half back