Your forwards decimated ours? Are you sure?

You were on top initially, the line speed was great, you were aggressive and we were disjointed with Smith departing so early. You had the majority of the ball but made very little ground and didn't threaten our line at all. At the end of the first half, a half you were well on top your completion was 83%. Ours was 63% or thereabouts but despite this you'd only made 60 more metres than we had.

You went in 4 nill up from penalties. Sean Long called it on Sky, you needed to be three scores up by then given how you'd controlled the general play. It was clear then that Saints were the likely winners.

For all the huff and puff in the first half, you were poor in the second. You aren't fit enough to go toe to toe with Saints like that and win. You can't keep it up for the 80 and as soon as we brought Thompson and Walmsley on towards the end the momentum shifted dramatically our way. The sin binning helped of course, but we were always going to be too strong there. Your pack was done and Walmsley and Thompson were busting holes everywhere with players flooding through in support as you back peddled.

How to fix it for Wire? Get fitter and be more disciplined is one idea. But team selection is key. You can't start games with deadbeats like Akuaola in the pack and you can't have two impact players in the same team. It leaves your front row woefully exposed when Saints had four tireless workhorse props, all of whom can do an hour with ease and the likes of LMS, Knowles, Peyroux and Lees who can do the 80. Eventually there will come a point where you just collapse. Have Clark at loose and one impact player on the bench and three big forwards that can put in a shift not just fat comedy impact players, academy players if they have to be, or use old Westwood and tell him to not give penalties away.

Walmsley & Thompson 252 metres
Hill & Cooper 153 metres

You got 99 problems but an impact prop ain't one.

Hey come on now...you can't deny a fella his kabab after a night out.

St Helens under 19s have beaten Warrington 82-16

Nonsense, your only forward who’s metres gained were respectable was Hill with 116. The rest were absolutely appalling, Cooper with 37 metres was particularly bad. Walmsley and Thompson tore you to shreds, particularly in the last 20 minutes.

Your defence was exhausted because the team had played at an intensity they couldn’t maintain for the full game. Your intensity and line speed in that first half was outstanding and had you been able to maintain for the full 80 you might well have won. Instead the whole team was running on empty and were only 6 points ahead which was never going to be enough.

Warrington's 4 props made a grand total of 205 metres, Saints 4 props made a grand total of 395 metres thats almost double.

Warrington's 4 props made a grand total of 11 missed tackles, Saints 4 props made a grand total of 3 missed tackles.

Warrington's 4 props made a grand total of 3 tackle busts, Saints 4 props made a grand total of 9 tackle busts.

So over the full 80 mins guess who bossed who in that front row battle, because Warrington's props looked completely gassed in the last 15 mins, and that was why Clark + Austin couldn't get on the front foot to challenge.

Lmao. “Decimated” us.

They’re incredible stats when you consider we had no recognised hooker on the pitch.

Can't argue with anything Saints are saying, they have big solid forwards who play long minutes.......we don't. We are seriously lacking another solid big ass prop which everybody knows. I would love to Keep Akouala and i really liked him at loose for us. Jason Clark is defensively good but his attack is not great and i really like Davis but he's small even for a second rower and can't punch his way through tackles or even make yards after impact. Really hope we can sign a decent Forward for next year.

Where we saints suffered was in having no recognised hooker to make better use of that pack advantage.

Put the best hooker in SL back into the Saints side and the damage would have been far worse.

To me it looks like ratchford is the only hope for Warrington to add some much needed creativity .

Ironically Warrington had a player sin-binned. They'll probably claim this was a turning point in the match and they could've won without it!

No doubt their superstar overpaid under 19 halfback went missing too

For a game that was just about another 2 points and it didn't matter if they lost, our sintellins "friends" have a lot to say about it on the Wire forum

Let them be. Its our duty to look after them - a bit like 'care in the community'.