Desperately need to be able to field a settled side ,Leeds are a team , they know what each other is doing ,they have their plays and can score from all positions,we are nowhere near that level and not many teams or even any teams are ,they are the best team in super league and we can only get better

As a Leeds supporter I can't understand the criticism some give to Penny. Admittedly I don't see him every week but everytime he has played Leeds he has looked sharp and threatening. Great positioning with sublime pace for his first try and again excelllent thirst for the ball and pace to outstrip Briscoe for his second.
Clarke must also save his best performances for his games against Leeds !!!

Sandow is gonna be a cracker for you: his class, talent, rugby brain and excellent kicking game were a strong positive for you going forward.

But yes....your pack and remaining team were pretty shat.

what a front row that was..roberts sanderson and the great mike greg as loose forward..they would of mullered this modern day pack..and boyd as capitano would av roasted any player who dared not pulled his weight...

Oh off with big heart wins matches crap.

Granted Penny is a tryer but he's a way off what quality we need.

Same goes for about 6 players.

Quality is the problem. Leeds were probably man per man stronger in each position.
By my reckoning we only had 6 players with the class to get into a top 4 SL side from that side tonight. It is no wonder we were hammered.

Ratchford
Penny,
R. Evans
T. King
Monaghan
Sandow
Myler
England,
Clark
Sims,
Philbin,
Currie
Hill

Dwyer,
Asotasi,
Wilde,
G. King



Not selected

Westwood
Harrison
Bridge
Laithwaite
Grix
Russel
Adkins
Obrien
Ben Evans* potential
Gene Ormsby
Wheeler
Patton

You love off with your shaat. We scored only 10 points today and Penny was responsible for 80% of them.

would you drop him then and if yes who for

I thought Penny was one of our better players tonight.

Read my post again when your a bit calmer.Didn't say it wins matches did I?Just making the point that desire + passion goes a long way in accepting defeat when the effort is there.

So, rather than identify where he thinks our frailties lay, "Wirefan" would rather pick on a player who scores two well taken tries. Scapegoattastic.

Keep up the "good work"

Compared to 2011 team
Brett Hodgson F
Chris Riley
Matt King
Chris Bridge
Joel Monaghan
Lee Briers
Richard Myler
Adrian Morley
Michael Monaghan
Garreth Carvell
Louis Anderson
Ben Westwood
Ben Harrison possibly on form
Mickey Higham
Jon Clarke
Paul Wood
Simon Grix
Michael Cooper

Too many people seem to be stuck rating Penny from his last stint with us.

Clarke was class, sandow kicked better in 80 mins than seen all season, hill dependable, penny always a threat, but Leeds were on fire,,,and ur not putting it out with displays like we're on show,,

Philbin blowing, welcome to top 4 football,
Toby king was not fit strapped up to hilt,
George king, way off pace back from injury
Rhys Evan same as above,
Ratchford is not a full back, terrible first half,
Dwyer not doing it
Asotasi on plane home,
So we got what the strength of the team deserved,,it's been mentioned tonight about or conditioning coaches,, there were players out there tonigh who were not physically able to play a game plan,, strapped to the hilt,,

Penny being one of our better players *tonight* does not make him good enough for where we want to be and that's the point I am making.

Penny vs Hall or Briscoe. Big yawning gap in standard from where we are to where we need to be.

Next year we'll likely go with Lineham and Russell on the wings which is a far better prospect as far as I'm concerned.