Oh off he was useless in all areas.

Phil clarke is loving this

I was just thinking tthe same thing

Be careful what you wish for anyone?

Well I wish we had a team that wants to play for its coach.

This lot have had enough.

Is too strong a word?

Mr Clarke loved every moment of looking straight into the camera and saying. "Warrington have absolute no change of winning the grand final".

But you said in another thread Wire WILL win this match.On what basis did you come to that conclusion but I do love your optimism even though a little barmy at times.

We don't seem to have any intensity/aggression or drive in the forwards bar Hill and Simms. Our attacks in the backs lack any pace, angles and Dummy runners and there is no-one on the field to lead the side. Our back row looks incredibly average and our halves look directionless.And we've lost all confidence. Apart from that, we're a great side.

Ratchford - appalling, as a defensive full back
Ormsby - No more a SL standard winger, than me. Bang average at best, bar scoring an acrobatic try
T King - Injured, again. Rhys Evans has competition
Atkins - Just go, please
Monaghan - A shadow of the player he was, only a year ago
Bridge - Call the cops. Missing person. Reward given.
Patten - Out of his depth at the moment
Hill - His usual standard. Superb (mostly)
Clark - Thieving a wage for what we were expecting
Sims - Fair effort
Westwood - At times, the game passed him by. Gone back to his "form" of last year.
Laithwaite. The dictionary definition of average. The new Mitchell.
Harrison. Stalagatites move quicker

Roy didn't let me down. I knew how he'd play. I was right.

The win prediction?
...On the bases that Ratchford would push up to be in a prominent position with ball in hand.
He didn't. I was more disappointed with Ratchford's effort than anyone.
He looks to me like he doesn't want to be at Wire.
Perhaps he's doing a Kevin Locke?!
So the combination with Bridge never happened.
Bridge doesn't really have a good kicking game, he relies on his own strength and support, he had no support and as such was as useless as the rest bar Hill and Sims.

Patton was well out of depth. His kicking options was unbelievably poor. He kicked deep into the FB/wingers hands over and over, whereas Kelly chose to kick very high lingering bombs.

We basically have 2 players that look half decent. The rest are either over the hill, not good enough or not trying.

Complete overhaul needed for me.

When you start to put aside the annoyance after a performance like that, you have to admit we played poorly and we have problems. As much as you would like those to be simple and all the fault of one or two people, it's rarely the case. But the guy who has to carry the can is TS - even if it's not directly his fault, the buck has to stop somewhere.

I am wondering if Smith is very good with talented, experienced players who really only require motivation / tweaking, but less good with inexperienced younger players who need much more structure in order to assist their progress and development. At both Leeds and Warrington TS started with a nucleus of underperforming, experience and got the very best out of them. Currently he is having to rebuild a top 4 side and has 6-7 youngsters in the team most weeks. We know he has a 'hands off' approach to management, and this style of coaching may simply not be the most appropriate for the current age group. Yes, there are many other factors e.g. we have players underperforming (Clark), we have bad recruitment (Asotasi), we have too many injuries, and we have a thin squad (Woody not replaced, Higham leaving), but we might need a Daryl Powell atm rather than a Tony Smith.

After previous recruitment,,, I'm very weary of giving smith more money get sacked next season,,and another year of tosh,, it's now time for new ideas ,, this team just missed out last year,, only difference,,, agar, his squash partner,, it's not working,, we have gone past the point of a turnaround,, if God forbid Leigh games goes Pete tong,, smith and agar must go,,,

If there's anything we can take from this game...it's that it truly showed every fault we have clearly.
Like has been said Smiths close match interview was even more embarrassing to watch than much of the second half.

I said weeks ago that this was a very ordinary side. I think that may have overstated that fact as we cannot even do the basics right,

Time for sweeping changes including the coaching staff. Shame it has come to this.