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Yup....

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Is it a telling factor that 3 teams who are trying to go down the youth route ,us ,Saints & Wigan have been beaten by opponents made up mostly of older ,more experienced & bulked up players ? It doesn't say a lot for the youth development structure within the game if these lads are the best on offer & the situation isn't helped by the removal of the academy tier with the expectation of 19 year old kids to all be ready to join open age players who have more size ,nouse & experience. Obviously certain teams are having to carry the can in promoting youth for the future greater good of the game but it sure aint working in terms of providing a competitive superleague.

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Quote: ratticusfinch "We are godawful in the opposing ten which tells you everything. No idea where the improvement is going to come from. We had a chance as a club to build a dynasty and be ruthless but went down the nicey nicey route. We are a club that will continue to be also rans! saints win grand finals with a team not a third of what we had at our disposal. Smith wants to develop players rather than win trophies...then work with youngsters cos as a fan I want trophies sorry.'"

Saints, Wigan and Leeds know how to develop players. We just seem to farm them out (a la O'Brien/Dwyer) or leave them to rot in our embarrassing dual reg set up. Between 2012-13 O'Brien was sent to Saints, Widnes, Bradford, Swinton and Castleford then suddenly expected to replace Lee Briers.

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Quote: ninearches "Is it a telling factor that 3 teams who are trying to go down the youth route ,us ,Saints & Wigan have been beaten by opponents made up mostly of older ,more experienced & bulked up players ? It doesn't say a lot for the youth development structure within the game if these lads are the best on offer & the situation isn't helped by the removal of the academy tier with the expectation of 19 year old kids to all be ready to join open age players who have more size ,nouse & experience. Obviously certain teams are having to carry the can in promoting youth for the future greater good of the game but it sure aint working in terms of providing a competitive superleague.'"

Even though the three teams you mentioned along with Leeds have won nearly all the trophies on offer over the last 5 years, or are you just referring to youth development against this weekend only?? Get a grip we are having a bad time but to question the youth development structure!!

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Totally called it, it's like a gift

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Tony Smith's post match comments below-


TONY Smith insists his Warrington Wolves side will ‘stick together’ as they bid to turnaround four successive losses in Super League.

Wolves’ 22-14 defeat to Castleford Tigers at The Halliwell Jones Stadium was a fourth on the bounce, their worst record since the beginning of the 2009 season.

Head of coaching and rugby Smith says confidence is low among some of his charges, but that the club will work hard to bounce back.

“It’s about us hanging in there, sticking together and working hard, turning things around,” he said. “We’re hurting a whole lot at the moment and I know our fans are as well.


“The support there was terrific, the amount of people that stay behind to encourage the players and let them know that their support is still there was enormous.

“We’re very grateful for that and one of the things about the Warrington people, since I’ve been here, is they’re right behind their team through thick and thin.

“We’re going through a little bit of thin time and it’s a good time for us to all stick together and we’ll come through this. We’ll repay them for their faith.

“We’ve got to work hard, that’s the only way to gain confidence. Keeping working hard and get our combinations going and we’ll come through.

“We’ll get on a roll and feel good about it. It does test you and test your resolve at times and the way you feel about yourself.

“Some of our players aren’t right on their game and some aren’t far off it but need a little bit more from their pals around them.

“We’re not just going to wait until that happens, it’s about hard work, training hard and keep doing the things we need to do better.

“We’re well aware of some of the areas that are letting us down and we’ve just got to rectify those and when it comes it will come really strongly.”

Wolves led 10-4 and were then level at 10-10 with 15 minutes remaining, but Smith believes an error-ridden game cost them the result.

“There were too many errors, particularly after half time,” he added. “I thought it was a big error just before half time that cost us when we were leading 10-4.

“I thought we were just starting to get on top and we made an error down our own end and then they scored a minute or so later.

“It was one too many sets for us to defend. Going into half time I thought we gifted them some points.

“In the second half there were way too many errors. We made a mistake on four or five of our first six sets, which really put us under pressure.

“We threw the ball into touch three times in the second half. Cas were here to complete today and give us no field possession or cheap ball.

“They were waiting and relying on us to come up with some cheap errors, and unfortunately we did.”

Smith took a positive from Wolves appearing to not pick up any further injuries, while Richie Myler returned to the side after a six-game absence.

“He tried hard but looked like a bloke who’s been out for five or six weeks as well,” said Smith. “We’re not quite gelling at the moment in terms of combinations right across the park.

“When Ben Currie gets that charge down, he’s out in the middle of nowhere and the ball bounces over his head.

“He’s a tall kid and the ball bounces back the other way, they score two plays later. It probably sums up where we’re at a little bit in terms of bounce of the ball and a bit of confidence.

“It was very draining out there, the weather, it’s the first really warm day and you could see it on both sets of teams at some stages.

“Both looked like they were on the verge of being broken open. When you hand the ball over at the half way line or pass it into touch on the first play, those are the things that can really hurt you in those hotter days.”

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Quote: marshman777 "Is it a telling factor that 3 teams who are trying to go down the youth route ,us ,Saints & Wigan have been beaten by opponents made up mostly of older ,more experienced & bulked up players ? It doesn't say a lot for the youth development structure within the game if these lads are the best on offer & the situation isn't helped by the removal of the academy tier with the expectation of 19 year old kids to all be ready to join open age players who have more size ,nouse & experience. Obviously certain teams are having to carry the can in promoting youth for the future greater good of the game but it sure aint working in terms of providing a competitive superleague.'"

Even though the three teams you mentioned along with Leeds have won nearly all the trophies on offer over the last 5 years, or are you just referring to youth development against this weekend only?? Get a grip we are having a bad time but to question the youth development structure!!'"


Yes i am questioning the youth development programme throughout the RFL .There are not enough young quality players coming through to produce the experienced players of the future. Neither Saints or Wigan are what they were & Leeds will probably have problems when Sinfield, Burrow & McGuire hang up their boots.

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I'll be the only one still hanging on here at this rate.

We made strides today I thought, we crossed the line 3 more times than they did, just had them scrubbed out, one for a forward pass that Cas got away with down the other end, with a bit more luck we would have won. Myler coming back in showed a marked improvement with our attack, he was there to hit the holes left when we offloaded and we made our way up field, it's our last 10 attack that needs fixing, I don't remember us once putting it up in the corner for Joel, why not? We're down on confidence and need to come out on Saturday with some aggression, take no prisoners and pummel Wakie with no mercy.

Bridge is still injured and needs some time to get right, any word on when Grix is back? He could fill in.

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I noticed one break Myler made & there wasn't a soul following him & he finished up having to go to ground with the ball.

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Quote: ninearches "I noticed one break Myler made & there wasn't a soul following him & he finished up having to go to ground with the ball.'"


I was screaming for someone to support him. He was looking around, but there was no-one near him.

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Never thought I'd say this but for my money, Big Roy was one of our best players, now whether thats a good thing........

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