I was there that night was it really 1986?
I thought it was in the mid 90's.

it has to be the 90's coz Brian Johnson was still the coach, I remember his resignation over it!

Either way, the reactions would have been interesting!

Definitely mid 90s. I was only born in 1986, so I'm not sure I'd remember being there if it was played then.

I guess I don't enjoy watching the Wire as I used to. I think it's the lack of intensity in most of the games. The Widnes game just encapsulated it all for me.

I'll pick and choose my games next season and pay on the day.

the intensity lacking comes from the fact that our much of our muscle this season has either started off the bench or been sat in the stands longer than they have been on the pitch.

It really is time to say farewell to Moz and Carvs.

Disagree about Carvell

And when was the last time you had a season ticket?

Were you disillusioned with the game when Brian Brady played because the playoff format was even more mickey mouse then, wasn't it just a straight knock out so no advantage for finishing top? Do you remember the year when Warrington topped the league and then Dewsbury won from 8th with Stevo in the team?

It was only in Brady's last couple of seasons that they made it so the league champions were the proper champions.

Personally I think Huddersfield should be crowned champions if they win the league and if Warrington win at Old Trafford from 2nd or 3rd then I wonder how many of our fans will be permanently put off rugby league.

Who once said "perception is reality". If a significant group of people believe regular games are immaterial, then that is the reality. Doesn't matter if they are correct or not, because they are not renewing their ST's.

The playoff format was broke the minute Leeds won from 5th two years in a row. I reckon 2014 will be the last year with the current system before they modify it in an attempt to breathe new life into it.

Fail to see how the system is broken because Leeds won it twice from fifth. It's a play off, anyone who's in it can win, that's the whole point.

What revolutionary idea will supposedly fix this broken system? Drop it down to six again? No wait, five?

That'll teach those Yorkshire scoundrels!

Making it harder to get into the playoffs will make the season more interesting rather than having a team sleepwalk through the season but still finish comfortably in the 8 and only then bothering to turn it on when the knockout stuff comes around.

I don't.
Perhaps we could have sqeezed another season out of him but he's getting injury prone.
And you wouldn't make him surplus to requirements for a direct replacement of a much younger ever present prop?
Ever present when he's not biting players ears that is!!!

Three questions you need to find the answers to.

1. How many games have Warrington played in 2013?
2. How many games has Carvell played in?
3. Of the games he missed, how many were due to injury?