No, not having or go or anything. just wondering if you generally hate drums at sports games, or whether if the crowd was going mad like at one of the 'big' home games you wouldn't mind them.

Imagine the outrage at a few sectarian pro IRA songs being belted out.

I'm not saying we sing Pro IRA rebel songs, I'm saying if we made as much noise at the HJ with our own songs.

Insulting songs!! Let's ban them for life.

'Sh1t Helens' 'Sheep sheep sheepshaggers' etc. I've been hearing them as long as I've been watching Warrington.

By the way is Rugby League not Croquet you're watching, though I suggest that may be more your kind of sport.

I have indeed other teams give us a right personal drilling at times. Why sometimes they even sing songs referring to us as "scousers"

That's worse than being labelled a kiddy fiddler!!!

Those songs are annoying, because they are as inaccurate as they are when we sing them to Saints.

In general though most Scousers are sound people, so you're obviously a fan of kiddyfiddlers.

No, you're wrong. Someone after a few beers hasn't thought, 'this will be a good laugh.' Someone has brought the Flare into the stadium with the intention of setting it off. You simply can't defend it.

Why, is it prerequisite to getting in "The Ultras"?

Why don't we just drop it now?

I think some of you must have been Peter Perfects in your youth.

I was near it and one of my kids is young. He was intrigued. I think sometimes a parents response to something can frighten a child.
Though I'm sure downwind it was unpleasant I think some need to get some perspective.

It's just the older generation. Because that never happened in 'their day' and they never needed drums to support. All they needed was a flat cap and a hand rattler. Now the support has changed I think they are just wary of it. Humans are creatures of habbit don't forget.

I don't want to see RL turn into the hoolaganism of European football, however I embrace the chants, flags and drums. The more noise the better IMO

It's just the younger generation. They can't be d making noise with their mouths and hands and so take to using drums and lighting fireworks....

Two way street.

In order to make noise with your mouth and hands you actually need to join in, something that doesn't happen anymore. where we stand near the 20, must be 50 people max that sing.

Add that the the young 12 year old kids that go to mess about and the 12 year old girls that go because they like the boys that are going and we end up with a e crowd.

At this rate were gonna have to choose a spot like Wigan fans had to do so all the fans who want to sing and create noise and have fun can stand together.

I'm with you on the atmosphere, but you can't just claim its a generation thing. There's many reasons why the atmosphere has died since we moved to the HJ. One of the main reasons IMO is the level of music pumped out in to the stands per game. You can barely hear yourself think at times.