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Quote: Roddy B "Our forwards were poor, but we lacked leadership all over the field tonight. However, Myler for me isn't showing enough leadership out there, I think some people accept too little from Richie. Those saying even Johns would struggle should go back and look at Johns and see a proper half back, a player with a proper passing and kicking game -- a proper playmaker. I've supported Richie before, but you can't have the most pivotal player lacking in the most pivotal skills. What if Lee doesn't get a new contract this season? What if (God forbid) Lee gets an injury like Solomona? Who do we ask to step up to the plate and lead us around the park? O'Brien? Ratchford? For me, Richie really should be stepping up to the plate as a match winner and a team leader, it seems to me that he's still too reliant on Mona's, Briers and Hodgson to step up to the plate before him.'"

Myler is not Briers, he plays a completely different game to him. The problem on Friday was the ridiculous off-loading by some of the forwards, which constantly gave Saints ball and territory. It was just about impossible for either Briers or Myler to shine at all. Why is no-one knocking Blythe for 2 impossible offloads, Paul Wood for having a poor game, or Gaz Carvell for being completely out of touch.
There are some very short memories on here, and remember we've only lost 2 games.

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Just had a peek at Mylers stats compared to Briers and well they surprised me, they stack up very well.

www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2012
Just had a peek at Mylers stats compared to Briers and well they surprised me, they stack up very well.

www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2012


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Quote: Teessidewire "Myler is not Briers, he plays a completely different game to him. The problem on Friday was the ridiculous off-loading by some of the forwards, which constantly gave Saints ball and territory. It was just about impossible for either Briers or Myler to shine at all. Why is no-one knocking Blythe for 2 impossible offloads, Paul Wood for having a poor game, or Gaz Carvell for being completely out of touch.
There are some very short memories on here, and remember we've only lost 2 games.'"


I think plenty of people have ripped into Carvell, Wood and Blythe, most of the post-match stuff was about them.

Yes, we have Briers to do a lot of the stuff, but he won't be here for much longer. If we're to succeed, we'll need Richie to start shouldering some of the offensive load, we have Briers, Monaghan and Hodgson doing a lot of it, but they're only getting older, Myler will have to start stepping up and taking over games for us. Yes, we have many players not hitting their lefty standards right now, but Myler needs to up his game regardless of form, for me, he could be so much better.

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Quote: gary numan "
Quote: gary numan "Don't know why lefty is ranting about scapegoats'"
, not seen anybody blame Myler for the defeat. Never rated Myler when we signed him but he has improved quite a bit since signing, defensively and doesn't run down so many blind alley's as he used to, however his asset is his support play but for me it's not enough for a half back. If Briers is off he won't take control of the play.'"



I'm "ranting about scapegoats", because we have a thread citing ONE player, who was by no means the worse player on the pitch, within half an hour of the game finishing.
Where's the thread about Wood, Carvell, MonaghanM stinking the house out?
That's right, there isn't one.
Why MUST we have digs against certain players? We win as a team, we lose as a team. But in the massed ranks of the stands, we MUST have a player to vent our frustrations on.
Clarke
Wainwright
Penny
Sibbit (second term)
MonaghanM and King in their early days
are just a few examples from the last handful of years. There's been plenty more.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "But he's better than Sam Tomkins isn't he?
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Very rarely plays well in big games for me. Still improving as a player, his defence has improved just want to see more him with regards to creativity. He doesn't really strike me as a player yet who can 'boss' a game like Briers has done in the past.

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Quote: lefty goldblatt "I'm "ranting about scapegoats", because we have a thread citing ONE player, who was by no means the worse player on the pitch, within half an hour of the game finishing.
Where's the thread about Wood, Carvell, MonaghanM stinking the house out?
That's right, there isn't one.
Why MUST we have digs against certain players? We win as a team, we lose as a team. But in the massed ranks of the stands, we MUST have a player to vent our frustrations on.
Clarke
Wainwright
Penny
Sibbit (second term)
MonaghanM and King in their early days
are just a few examples from the last handful of years. There's been plenty more.'"
Well to be a scapegoat somebody must blame him for the defeat, i've not seen anybody do that. I have seen most of the forwards take a bashing on most threads even if they don't have a dedicated thread (apart from monaghan). I think the thing with the players who were awful like Carvell for instance, we know because we have seen he can play much better he's a proven player. If he playe many more games like he did on friday, don't worry he will get his own threads.
Like i said Myler has improved as a player but he's not produced anything that i want from a half back on a consistent basis. He's not a bad player but he's not a great player either imo and it seems in others opinions and that's probably why he's got a thread about himself, he's not proven yet.

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Well done, Myler.
We win as a team, we lose as a team.
Well done all.

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I wrote this on another forum:

'I've stood up for Myler and I will do again, he's a very exciting player who spots an opportunity brilliantly. But tonight he was poor until the last twenty when the game was won. He needs to improve his choice and execution of pass and kick far better if he's to get anywhere near filling Briers' boots. However, I won't hear any rubbish about his defence, he puts his body on the line and comes up with the try-stopping play incredibly often for a bloke of his size.'

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He made a couple of obvious errors tonight but was involved in four tries and put some great work in defence again. I thought he did ok tonight.

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Got too agree Myler did make a couple of errors, but was involved in 4 tries and worked hard in defence.

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The point about Richie Myler is he doesn't have a problem against far weaker sides but when the chips are down, against stronger opposition he quite often goes missing.

When he played for England he was fine against the likes of Wales and France but when the opposition got better he was largely dissapointing, its very similar with us. He needs to improve his kicking game as well, most of his kicks tonight were nothing kicks, Gareth O'Brien seems to have a fair better kicking game so i'm suprised that Myler seemed to kick quite a bit.

He did ok tonight, not spactacular but would we have expected anything less against a side thats conceding on average 40+ pts per game ?

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glass always half empty, for some

As soon as we got regular ball, Myler looked great. Well done, lad.

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Against that terrible edge D it would have been a real worry if he didn't do well....

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I thought he had a cracking game - offence and defence. one or 2 execution errors but he was very vocal tonight.

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