And I assume yours have been painstakingly researched. I can quite comfortably assure you that mine are researched greater than yours.

what about character as well.....Tomkins has let himself down on a few occasions...He wouldn't be in the top 50 of a category called "Gentlemanly conduct"

I know who I want my son to emulate on the rugby pitch...and it ain't V boy.

Well that's just laughable!

Monas, fantastic player and makes one hell of a difference to Wire.

However, a few people on here are confused about the MOS award and are manipulating the concept of the MOS to suit Monas winning it.

It's for the best individial player not the best team player.

The best indicator for the MOS is how people do in the Albert Goldthorpe award, based like the Dally M award which I think is much fairer than the MOS.

Albert Goldthorpe points - Chase 39, Tomkins 38, Dureau 34, Roby 31, Brett Hodgson 20, Lomax 19 etc

Monas is 1 point in front of Jordan Tansey and behind Bridge, Hodgson and Briers, make of that what you will.

Cloudy research - sounds a bit dodgy to me.

That can be destroyed straightaway. Look who won the Dally M Award last year and the furore it caused. Brett Hodgson is our top Goldthorpe performer, but he hasn't been our best player by any means this year. The Goldthorpe medal tends to be the best individual in a particular team. Chase for example, has scored over 60% of Castleford's points. The only indicator for MOS is the players themselves, and if the players vote for Sam then he will deserve it (can't see too many votes from Leeds though).

I wouldn't rubbish Hodgsons season due to not playing much of late and the shocker against Wigan in the cup, its based on the full season not just the last four games of the season.

I'm not. He's a very good player. I'm just pointing out that he hasn't been our best player, but according to the Goldthorpe ratings he has.

Monas not even made the dream team, yet his brother has, they have Roby as their hooker.

Oh I am sorry; you have misunderstood (may be my wording) I was saying that the matches I referenced (leeds in CC and wire games etc) no one could claim he had made a positive impact (unless with very thick pie goggles on). While other matches where he played a bit of a part (leeds at headingley etc) such as kicking a penalty, he merely played an average role due to periods of dominance from the pack. However, He still was poor in defence, was selfish and was at many time ineefective.

I watched many games in person and if not I watched them on tv.

You are free to disagree with me though

In 'how many are we taking to the game in Uzbekistan' style. +1

Man of Steel, ooops

Why ooops? Dream Team is voted for by journalists using a points system. It is not a huge leap of faith to imagine Monaghan was a close second to Roby for the hooking role. Who is to say the players
will necessarily agree with the hacks?

see, your all doing it again! trying to have a reasoned debate with the gonads that come on this site from the pie board is like em, pointless! ffs wise up and ignore them! i have and i feel so much cleaner since i started.

Well said slim..I have started ignoring them now and you know what it feels like i have got rid of a sexually transmitted disease that has followed me around since High school..