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Quote: getdownmonkeyman "71, it looks like the general concensus from those up the A49 concurs with myself and Soul Man.'"



I think the view is that maybe Edwards didnt have the class of Hanley or Gregory but they don't go on to say he was just a hard worker with no/limited rugby talent. The posts all agree on legend status and commend his "rugby brain" and ability to "read a game". This I believe is a talent in itself.

Anyway, we can disagree can't we. I just think there are so many more players which would suit being on the thread more than Edwards.


BTW One of the posters quoted a pivot of 6 Edwards, 7 Gregory, 13 Hanley. It brought a shiver down my spine just remembering that.

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edwards...limited talent?

ahahahahaha

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Edwards? One trick pony!

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Quote: Wires71 "I think the view is that maybe Edwards didnt have the class of Hanley or Gregory but they don't go on to say he was just a hard worker with no/limited rugby talent. The posts all agree on legend status and commend his "rugby brain" and ability to "read a game". This I believe is a talent in itself.

Anyway, we can disagree can't we. I just think there are so many more players which would suit being on the thread more than Edwards.


BTW One of the posters quoted a pivot of 6 Edwards, 7 Gregory, 13 Hanley. It brought a shiver down my spine just remembering that.'"


It will be a sorry state of affairs when we can't hold differing opinions.

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Quote: Wires71 "I think the view is that maybe Edwards didnt have the class of Hanley or Gregory but they don't go on to say he was just a hard worker with no/limited rugby talent. The posts all agree on legend status and commend his "rugby brain" and ability to "read a game". This I believe is a talent in itself. .'"


At no point did anyone suggest that he had no talent, what I did was - to answer LWF's query on why he is in the same sentence as Lee Penny and Danny Lima - is take three vastly different players from three different eras somewhat who achieve vastly contrasting things within the game, as no doubt there will be people on this board more familar to any one of those than the others.

Lee Penny is one of only a handful of people to have scored 100 tries for Warrington in a career that spanned more than a decade, yet he'd hardly be considered a Jonathon Davies-esque player.

Danny Lima had a bit of a purple patch during 2005 and faded back into obscurity, he had little talent at all, but made the most of it through his sheer shize.

Shaun Edwards had talent, but he also knew his own limitations and, as such, used his brain to hide his weaknesses and expose his strengths. I agree that this could be considered a talent, and, as such, Edwards could be considered the most talented player of that Wigan side. However, what I stated was that considering Edwards' apparent physical limitations (in comparison to others), hedid quite well for it. Others should takenote of this; Martin Gleeson and Lee Briers, for example, should hang their heads in shame for not having an ounce of the sheer will and determination that Edwards had; combined with their raw and natural talents, they'd be world beaters if they did.

Just as an aside, what did you make of his taping over the British Coal logo during the disputes? I doubt that would've earned him legend status at the young Tories' ball? icon_wink.gif

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Quote: NickyKiss "Kris Radlinski for me.

My mate went to school with him and said he wasn't even in the top 4 or 5 at their school and after reading Rads book he talks about being dumped from the town team at 14 and having to work really hard to make sure he had a future in the game.

He knew he wasn't naturally the most skillful, the fastest or strongest so he went away and worked on his own for a couple of years on his speed and agility.

It worked a treat!

He does also mention how he was on Saints books for a spell and came within hours of signing pro for them I think that a good example, lots of the top kids at 14-15 suddenly discover a lot outside interests.

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My mate at work just came up with Vinny Jones,
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and very fine Actor..............

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robbie savage
has made millions running round lack a headless chicken fouling people.not an ounce of talent,possibly the worst player i've ever seen.

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Tim Henman.

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Lee Briers has made the best out of limited talent, pure and simple.

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Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "Lee Briers has made the best out of limited talent, pure and simple.'"



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Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "Lee Briers has made the best out of limited talent, pure and simple.'"




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Quote: 'Hitman' Norvern Soul "wrong way round'"


Why is it, Briers has limited talent and the way folk go on about him he's made the most of it........ he's no world beater.

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