You can't seriously be bringing tattoos into the 'debate' given that we have some of the most 'decorated' sportsmen on the planet

Not watched any of it at all.

The World Cup has been great so far. Usually the group stages don't offer that much but most games have been good. It bodes well for the rest of the tournament.

Not bothered about England though.

I watched a programme about the good & bad points of disability scooters last night & i suspect it was more entertaining than Engerland ! I think our international football team needs some inspired refreshment on the pitch ,players who will inspire other players instead of the perpetual whining of the boys who can do no wrong ,Gerard & Rooney. You see them two misery gutsies & the team is beaten before a ball has been kicked. They might be good footballers ,but are they inspirational ?

Sick to death of these threads whenever something football related comes up. If you don't like it, then fair enough, you are not forced to watch it, but don't start something to try and drum up support for others who dislike football.

I love football, really enjoyed this world cup, haven't enjoyed seeing England faulter but I'm used to it by now.

Poor show, this thread.

It makes some people feel better if they watch a tough game like RL rather than a soft wimpy game like football, despite them ever playing either.

I was coming to the end of primary school in Italia '90. First time I got majorly in to football. My first memory of debates in sports tactics was "English 4-4-2" v the continental "sweeper system" and how excited everyone got when Robson switched England to the sweeper system mid tournament with Mark Wright playing there.

Remember collecting ring pulls from coke cans and you could send off to get one of them coca cola mini footballs, and schools all around the country were banning those balls! And making sure my Mum filled up the car with Esso so I could get Esso coins, although I only got three, two Barnes and Steve Bull. I wanted Lineker.

In games lessons everyone was doing stuff they'd seen in the world cup, Roger Milla jigging his booty in the corner flag, gobbing on peoples faces like Rijkaard did to Voeller or doing Klinsmann dives. In headers and volleys we used to set up that Platt goal against Belgium where he got that overhead volley.

Then after the football finished and school broke up it was on to cricket and Gooch got his 333 against India.

Great times as a kid getting in to sport.

but it got you to reply poor show or not

It's a forum, that's what it's all about. England have now been knocked out. You gonna start a separate thread about that now?

I'm getting old mate, complaining is my only output.

I'm one of the grumpiest people I know but not 'the' grumpiest :-p