If you're going to dismiss the laws of physics as 'cr@p', I suspect the RFL and reffing authorities aren't going to take you seriously. The use of the video referee for forward passes in rugby union takes full account of momentum.

ScottHKR likes the roundabout more than he likes the swings.

Like that?

You pass the ball backwards. If it is caught in front of the passer then it should be a forward pass.

It should not be any deeper than that.

If you want to change the laws of physics, such that no player could ever pass the ball while running again, simply because it's too complex a subject for you to get your head around, then I'll risk a ban and stick with my assertion that you are not that bright - even for a Hull KR supporter.

I don't think this is about the standard of officiating, more the laws of the game. It does not matter if the ball travels forward. RFL Laws, Section 10, Note 1The direction of a pass is relative to the player making it and not to the actual path relative to the ground. A player running towards his opponents’ goal line may throw the ball towards a colleague who is behind him but because of the thrower’s own momentum the ball travels forward relative to the ground. This is not a forward pass as the thrower has not passed the ball forward in relation to himself. This is particularly noticeable when a running player makes a high, lobbed pass.'" rflmedia.therfl.co.uk/docs/RFL%2 ... 202013.pdf It's whether the ball is passed forward, not whether it has travelled forward. If Player A passes the ball backwards at the half way line, but because of momentum Player B catches it 1 metre past the half way line, it is not a forward pass. It looks like one, and we'd all be screaming for it, but it isn't. If the ball is passed backwards that is all that counts. Now, is Scott is saying that momentum should be discounted, and it should only matter if it travels forward that's different. But we'll need to change the laws of the game, it's not about refereeing in my view.

I don't think this is about the standard of officiating, more the laws of the game. It does not matter if the ball travels forward. RFL Laws, Section 10, Note 1The direction of a pass is relative to the player making it and not to the actual path relative to the ground. A player running towards his opponents’ goal line may throw the ball towards a colleague who is behind him but because of the thrower’s own momentum the ball travels forward relative to the ground. This is not a forward pass as the thrower has not passed the ball forward in relation to himself. This is particularly noticeable when a running player makes a high, lobbed pass.'" rflmedia.therfl.co.uk/docs/RFL%2 ... 202013.pdf It's whether the ball is passed forward, not whether it has travelled forward. If Player A passes the ball backwards at the half way line, but because of momentum Player B catches it 1 metre past the half way line, it is not a forward pass. It looks like one, and we'd all be screaming for it, but it isn't. If the ball is passed backwards that is all that counts. Now, is Scott is saying that momentum should be discounted, and it should only matter if it travels forward that's different. But we'll need to change the laws of the game, it's not about refereeing in my view.

I fear you could be very childish keyboard warrior who doesn't have the intellect to put together a reasonable and intelligent response to what was a reasonable topic for debate imo, but instead respond with the type of rhetoric usually reserved for immature plonkers.

Exactly what browny said, but slightly more subtle.

He didn't give a reason as to why I am an idiot though?

Also, that is quite offensive, and shows the invisibility sitting behind a keyboard gives them.

A petition to improve refereeing standards? Really? How do you suggest the improvements would be made? More training, video and knowledge sessions? I have one idea, and I believe it is a decent opinion personally. If you don't like it, do it better yourself. If you go to the RFL website, you'll find an application pack to complete and officials course, on which, you will receive training and advice so you can go out on a Sunday morning come rain and shine to earn your stripes as an official, and work your way up the ladder. I'm sure the RFL would appreciate having more officials at thee disposal.


To me, officials are skilled and professional athletes, es they make mistakes, but only as many as a Morley, Tomkins or Roby. As long as the game is played and officiated by humans, their will be errors. Sport's been like this for hundreds of years, and survived, in my opinion, give the authority back to the professional officials and do away with the video/tmo/DRS etc. and let them use their ability to make decisions.

Can we have a petition to improve the standard of Super League? It is dire this season compared to what we had a few years back. The game is slow and dull and the excitement has gone out of many fixtures. There is a lack of real quality at the top teams, which isn't to say there are no good players, just it is not what it was. The Aussies or Kiwis are going to rip England to shreds in the World Cup.

So my petition is for the RFL to do something about that, and not mickey mouse gestures like splitting the league up or whatever. The sport is facing tough competition, tennis, cycling, cricket, athletics etc the UK or England are producing world class athletes who are at the top of their sports, in rugby league we aren't, there's Sam Tomkins who will go to RU soon and that's it.

must admit the piece on the BBC website reporting that Myler could be out for a while gave a list of options in the halves should he miss the world cup...
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To be fair Ryan Hall will give the Aussies a game more than Tomkins will, he has been a pretty outstanding winger for club and country its a pity we dont 'big up' our genuine world class performers instead of a failed halfback that plays really well for his club against poor opposition.

Tomkins will leave superleague and it'll be what was the fuss......

Scott. I've been called far worse than that to my face many times (and sometimes I've justified it). If you think being called an idiot is offensive then maybe you should re-consider whether or not you really want to make statements that defy the laws of physics. You seem to have had a similar response on other Boards, especially on the Wigan one, so I think you should consider waving the white flag. If you really want to start a petition, address it to Neil Hudgell, and ask why HKR constantly try the referees patience with their lying on and messing around tactics at the ptb.

I sometimes wonder more often than not if there is a lack of knowledge of the rules from the spectator's side, therefore they get frustrated when decisions don't go the way they expected.

rlHere's a little quizrl to see if your knowledge of even the most basic rules is up to scratch. And be honest...!