Any particular location?

let me think

We get bullied up front by bigger packs and carry players wwho aren't good enough.

You appear to be an idiot. Learn English before you get cocky.


I'd like to point out that I agree that Thaler was poor today. The touch judges are stealing a wage and Hull were the better team. If you can't understand the complexities of that simple statement, you are rather slow. : )

they are BOT mutually exclusive... Monkey man!

Well done. As did we last year.

ha ha what a thicket

loving your avatar

king kenny!!!!

superb , cloth eared pie eating whopper

it's we're not where, you gibbon! hence the request for a location....whooooosh springs to mind!

hull as won both there games over easter does that mean there champions

No hard luck story here I'm afraid.

There pack went well, their backs carried a threat and they kicked & completed. Lots of under par performances from us today, we looked jaded.

I like a bloke who knows what he is talking about.

Look you know,and we know, you are extracting the urine.

Was it a case of the ageing bodies not being able to back up after so short a turnaround?

I don't think so, we were flat. Blokes coming in who didn't feature like Blythe & King didn't stand out to sort of 'highlight fatigue' if you like, we just couldn't complete and Hull strike me as a side that you have to out complete, it's one of Stevo's 'armwrestle' sort of .

I seem to recall that this has been pointed out to our Wire friends before.... But they seem to have faith in their ageing pack...

According to Rovers fans,we are "Dads Army."
Not a bad result for some fogeys.

Fair summary. The relative energy levels in the second half surprised me a bit - looked like you were the ones who'd played a draining derby on Friday rather than us. Tickle, Dowes and Fitz have played a shedload of minutes for us over the weekend and I think the result was simply down to us wanting it more today.

I've just put exactly that on another thread, you'd think we had been in a derby game on Friday.

I think we were just dumb today, to be honest. To win the game we had to almost go pack v pack and just let the openings present themselves, kick and compete over & over, we just lacked patience. Almost back our pack, against what I think when all fit might be the best pack in the league (one of anyhow).

Massive credit to Hull, did all the little things better.

so wigan aint got any players on the wrong side of the 30s then apart from fieldon , deacon , roberts , carmont , coley ..... didnt think so jog on

No I think we are aware that players will need replacing, although its not like the whole side will retire together. But remember we were top of the league going into today and have beaten the SL champions Wigan twice on their own park in the last two meetings between the sides....so the faith is not misplaced.

I remember an ageing Wigan pack, under Mike Gregory, with Craig Smith, Pongia, Terry O'Connor and Cassidy in it, getting to the Grand Final...unfortunately Wigan recruited badly for a few years after that and went downhill, so we have to get the recruitment decisions right.

May I respectfully suggest that attacking your own line really is a reason to panic?

The forward pass decision from the Briers break was crucial, RL is all about momentum, and we would have had it then. I'm not sure if it was a good/ball call, I just thought straight away that line breaks from us had been so sparce and it would have been a great time with circa 10 mins left to score, really boost our energy levels and really ask Hull to dig deep.

We have beaten for the third time by a team that matched (bettered?) us for physical presence and by a game-plan that consisted of playing very narrow around the ruck and carrying the ball back against the ruck into the hole that is consistently left by our second marker not holding position. Very basic from Hull but they were prepared to be patient and wait for our mistakes and for a couple of gifts from the officials. On the other hand, we lacked composure and were not prepared to build pressure.

I think Agar has been watching a replay of the Huddersfield game from a few weeks ago. On the other hand, they may have just played that way that due to the absence of Long as they hardy used a pivot all game. Not sure which is the real reason!

Ok, I must have gone to a different game to most posters, but what I saw, the better team won. To blame the ref, fair enough. Nothing wrong with Westwood's try, but the pass for our 1st try was a yard forward.

The facts are Fitzgimmon was mom by a country mile, Whiting( out of position was excellent), Gleeson was solid in defense and Obst ran the midfield. We had westwood (as usual) and the rest stayed in Salford.

Sorry to burst some bubbles, but our side is not championship material. Just open your eyes.