Some of Tony Archer's desicions were baffling at times but he wasn't the reason we lost. We were just simply not good enough. Too many knock ons and errors. However on a better note for us, Ben Westwood was brilliant. MOM for me.

Roby was the best player on the field and that includes the aussies.

i`ll agree there were some dodgy decisions that went in favour of the aussies but we are miles behind the kiwis and aussies at test level...2 positions spring to mind full back tomkins v billy slater and stand off lockyer v loughlin no competition if you ask me..the other positions we were miles behind...think we will struggle next week still it was a nice holiday for them

Disagree. The work that Westwood put in was outstanding and for me was our best player followed by Roby and Graham respectively.

the annoying thing is even with a referee biased towards england we would still probably lose so why on earth does the rlif let this guy take control of the game in such a manner, it just ruins any slim chance of making international rugby league outside of australia v NZ look competitive

I rspect your opinion, but i think i know which out of the two the aussie clubs will be sniffing around. Westwood was v.good though, a damn sight better than wigan's wonder boy joel tomkins.

Quote: Moe syslak "I rspect your opinion, but i think i know which out of the two the aussie clubs will be sniffing around. Westwood was v.good though, a damn sight better than wigan's wonder boy joel tomkins.'" Joel Tomkins got through some work but was very average. A few stats from today: live.nrlstats.com/matches/nrl/match3979.html

Quote: Moe syslak "I rspect your opinion, but i think i know which out of the two the aussie clubs will be sniffing around. Westwood was v.good though, a damn sight better than wigan's wonder boy joel tomkins.'" Joel Tomkins got through some work but was very average. A few stats from today: live.nrlstats.com/matches/nrl/match3979.html

it was stupid to go for 2 points at 6 6 we all knopw aussies were gonna score more tries so the 2 points were never gonna make any difference should of gone for the try far to negative

if you could pick a team out of the 34 players today how many of your 17 would come from the english side???????

1. Billy Slater
2. Brett Morris
3. Brent Tate
4. Willie Tonga
5. Lote Tuqiri
6. Darren Lockyer
7. Cooper Cronk
8. Sam Burgess
9. James Roby
10. James Graham
11. Luke Lewis
12. Sam Thaiday
13. Ben Westwood

14. Luke Robinson
15. Cameron Smith
16. Nate Myles
17. Gareth Ellis

6/17.

I have no problem with Atkins being slated he has had two poor game's,but i do have a problem with the usual suspects on the V.T. ignoring the mistakes other players made...

One Aussie try came from a knock on from Goulding returning the ball in a one on one tackle.
Another one came from an awful attempt by Briscoe to diffuse a pretty straight forward bomb.
There was also the ball that hit the ground which Cudjoe should have eaten up but he hesitated and allowed the Aussie player (who's name escapes me) gather and set up a try..

Add to that we have absolutely nothing in the pivotal halfs position...Going on tour with only 1 recognised scrum half (who has played hooker all season) is noth short of a disgrace IMO.
Burgess and Ellis who play in the the NRL have been disappointing i expected a lot more from those two...

And the fact two of the Aussie tries should have been chalked of and i believe they effected the momentum of the game.....

To sum up i believe Graham,Westwood,Roby,Robinson (at a push)...Can come home with their heads held high...

Problems with player development goes right back through to junior rugby and the people who are tasked to develop the skills required.

Roby over Cameron Smith........?

There must be a place in that team for Tony Archer, he was outstanding forAustralia!