Which is their right wether you like it or not....I certainly don't agree with voting BNP but i'm not going to get on my high horse about it...
Labour has failed Britain in a big way...And i don't trust Cameron at all, i just think people are looking for alternatives and the BNP are one of them unfortunately..

Labour are not having mine - the lies about Iraq are coming through. As Pa Broon is being called to the inquiry before the election, we may be getting it sooner than may/June.

i actually said if you scroll up a little further



not exactly a high horse just MY opinion

Probably won't vote as I expect the list of candidates in my constituency will be Con, Lab, LibDem, BNP. If the Greens run and I can be bothered going to the polling station I might vote for them. If Scargills party the SLP stands I'll vote for them, or the Respect Party or the Socialist Party.

I can't be bothered with the internal politics of some of these left wing groups who spend all their time arguing with each other, so and so's a Stalinist, us Trotskyists are better etc. However I fundamentally believe in equality and fighting wage exploitation so I will always register my support to someone on that side, so the government knows there's a market for it.

There's actually a much bigger market for left wing politics than the media and the political class like to suggest. The only time in the past few decades when any of the main parties have fielded a radical left wing manifesto was 1983 when Thatcher got in with a big majority, and the right wingers in Labour went on about that being the longest suicide note in history etc.....but 8 and a half million people voted for that radical left wing manifesto.....those 8 and a half million people deserve representation even if they haven't got enough support to produce a government.

The reason why the Parliamentary Labour Party made sure all those who were lukewarm on Brown actually bothered to nominate him for the leadership after Blair, was because they were scared to death of John McDonnell getting enough nominations to be allowed to run, because their own internal polling had shown loads of Labour members were going to vote for McDonnell and had he sneaked a few more nominations there was the very real possibility that the disgruntled Labour membership would have ended up making John McDonnell the British Prime Minister in 2007....

I think there's a gap in the political market and if somebody credible emerged on the left, stayed out of the immaturity that sometimes goes on in left wing politics, and made a strong case for socialist policies, they would get a lot of people to turn out and back them, a lot of people who aren't going to vote at the moment.

If the election was tomorrow, then I would definately tick the [i"I want to vote but do not wish to vote for any of the available candidates"[/i box (if there was one).

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I'll be voting for Labour, because what people seem to happily ignore is that Labour have prevented a Recession becoming a Depression.

The plain story is that the Conservatives got the Economic Downturn completely wrong, the hardest hit would have been left abandoned and they were the only party in World Politics to oppose fiscal stimulus.

And if the Conservatives win, it will be places like Warrington which see cuts first because of the fact we are a Labour area.

And I find it increasingly annoying the amount of people voting for "minor" parties which have no hope of winning. Are people too stupid to see that it is a clear choice between Labour and Tory, Brown and Cameron?

The fact that 3 mindless idiots have stated intention to vote for the BNP is nothing short of sickening. Do they want to extradite our players of colour and our foreign players?

How do make out that Labour has failed us ?
The schools are better , the NHS is better the Emergency services are better All things which the conservatives destroyed, remember it was the conservatives who introduced the fuel escalator and sold off the governments jewels gas elec phones everything that made the country money we also had 15% interest rates the last time the conservatives were in power .
The recession was caused by America and greedy banks something that would have happened no matter who was in power but would have been worse if the conservatives had been there.
So explain where have labour failed us ?

i am with you on this one.

Life has got worse under Labour, not better. Schools are worse than they ever were, kids go in with knives, tell their teachers to f- off and teachers live in fear of saying anything to them in case they get hauled up in front of the LEA. Transport is a nightmare now and the trains have basically priced people out of the market. It's rock hard to get registered with an NHS dentist because they have all gone private. Energy bills are sky high and the reality for most ordinary families is paying for running their homes takes up a big chunk of their monthly income especially in winter. If you were rich enough to be able to take advantage of the property boom by accumulating more than one property, then you were able to do well under Labour but most of us have been left behind.

The worst thing is the cheek they have now in talking about the massive deficit in state finances. Labour loved the whole PFI business in their early years, Blair was terrified of antagonising "middle england" so they raised money for short term investment not through taxation but through borrowing off private investors...."Public-Private Partnership" was never a partnership, it was just borrowing money from the private sector guaranteed to be paid back with stacks of interest over the long term, by the taxpayer. I remember back ten years ago the outrage in the public sector where everyone was warning the government they were mortgaging our future and racking up huge debts where the interest would be eating away at the public budget more and more each time a PFI contract was signed. The Labour government didn't care, because that was the way they could finance having their cake and eating it - low taxes for Middle England, but saying they'd found money to pay for public sector investment. Now ten years on Alastair Darling stands up and makes speeches telling the public sector they have to be honest with us and "break the bad news" that the public finances are in a shocking state, we can't afford to pay back our debt, so the public sector has to be ready to make big sacrifices.......where have you been for the last ten years mate....debt doesn't create itself overnight

All the extra money that Labour spent on the public services didn't really get much return, they over bureaucratised everything and made professionals like teachers, nurses and policemen spend more and more time on paperwork auditing themselves for Labour's league tables and disillusioned them from the profession.

i am not going to waste time picking holes in every section of your post,you are wrong,the wrongdoings of thatchers government are still felt in many communities today.
i left school into thatchers britain,times were bad,times are difficult for people leaving school now because of a WORLDWIDE recession not one caused by a government like maggies with their boom and bust mentality.
we will shortly come out of this recession,what would cameron have done had he been in power,the answer in his own words he'd "have let it run it's course"
and christ knows where we'd end up then.

And we've had a Labour government for the last 13 years with huge majorities.

Labour had a choice, they could either carry on with Mrs Thatchers policies or take a different approach.

Sally cinnamon, just a few points.
Transport overpriced? Wasn't it the Tories who sold off the railways and privatised the buses?
Energy bills sky high? Wasn't it the Tories who sold off the power companies?
PPP and PFI? Wasn't it the Tories who first introduced such arrangements?
There have been problems with NHS dentistry, but there are now NHS dentists in Warrington taking new patients.

I don't pretend that everything is fine with Labour, and Brown is certainly not a man to inspire many to vote for him, including me. But how can anyone trust the Tory toffs not to look after their own, and to hell with the rest.
Nothing changes does it?

The One that got away - are you a Private Eye reader? Iask as you mention Pa Broon.

By building debt that our kids and grandchildren will struggle to pay back. Apparently every man, woman and child is owed at least £5000 by the government as they prop up banks and public spending.

As RL Stevenson said, 'sooner or later we all sit down to a banquet of consequences'.