look up and you might catch sight of the point sailing over your head mate.
If you can justify highams inclusion in the Wales squad then fair enough, but I don't think he should have been in.

Who should've been then?

Roby & Diskin couldn't be selected, week after the GF.

Moore started.

Who then?

Who did this disgraceful selection keep out?

Out of our own players that played in the Wales game i think only Adrian Morley deserves a starting spot in the 4 nations, Chris Bridge did well when he came on and looked lively but i think Lee Smith is a better option at right centre, lets face it though neither of them will be on the same planet as Inglis or Hodges and neither Bridge or Lee Smith is built that well so they won`t trouble the aussies with any kind of power, thats where we`ll miss Senior who has been in good form this year.

Gareth Carvell is a better player than the one that showed up against Wales but when we have a front row that will probably be Morley and Peacock then i think Carvell would only get a bench spot at best along with James Graham, thats 2 decent props on the bench. You would think that Scott Moore will be the starting hooker with Roby as the impact hooker so that would leave one utility spot left on the bench, at a guess that would be between Kyle Eastmond and Chris Bridge. Ryan Hall is fair enough on one wing but i can`t say i`m a fan of Peter Fox, i don`t see him casuing the kiwis or aussies many problems.

Our pack is fine, its a very good pack with the likes of Morley, Peacock, Ellis, Burgess and probably Sinfield at loose forward. I`m not so sure about our hookers though, Scott Moore is a solid player but is he international class, would he really trouble the Australians ? Time will tell, James Roby from what ive seen of him hasn`t really shown any decent form since he won the man of steel.

As has been discussed before, scrum half is a problem. Richie Myler has a bit to prove and i`m not sure he is quite ready yet at the highest level, you couldn`t pick him on what he showed against Wales as he looked rusty and out of sorts, Sam Tomkins is too much like Danny McGuire and if you paired them both together you wouldn`t really have any organisation from half back and someone to take the team around the pitch.

Good luck Tony, you have a bit of head scratching to do with the 4 nations line up.

I don't think Diskin is in the squad Rob so he has to choose between Moore and Roby. I agree with you about Peter Fox though!!!

Yeh mate, ive just edited it. It still leaves the same problem in whether Scott Moore is good enough at the highest level along with Roby not showing any great form for a fair while from what ive seen of him.

Was their a reason why Scott Moore got the nod over Diskin ? Scott Moore didn`t look dangerous against us in the challenge cup final, Huddersfield looked a better side when Lunt was on the pitch.

Looking at our centres it looks like it will either be a combination of Shenton/Lee Smith, Shenton/Chris Bridge or O`Loughlin and either Smith or Bridge, that looks weak as well to take on the Australians. Thats why Senior is a loss, surely O`Loughlin won`t get anywhere near the centres unless he decides to go for him on size alone but to beat the Australians you need to score points and i can`t see O`Loughlin being much of a threat at left centre, Ryan Hall would have to do his own thing to keep warm if that was the case

all of them are playin hard i would like to see anyone try i really would and you are just layin it think i think it is stupid you should respect any player that has the guts to out there and get hurt or anything like that you all are stupid i aint bein funny but you try and go out there and play that game i bet you would fall down like a bag of s**t

Is it just me, or does anyone else have a problem understanding certain parts of this thread?

is it the picture of captain picard?

It helps when posters have English as a first language.