The fact they can't cry 'that's why were champions' is satisfying enough.

If next season we were to finish 2nd in the league, reach the Grand Final and make the Challenge Cup semi final, would we regard this as quite a successful season, or would it be a failure in the light of this year's unrepeatable glories?

What a bizarre thread.

We certainly never want to be the 'new Wigan' as their 80s/90s success was based on a devil-take-the hindmost disregard for the sport as a whole and a vew that all other clubs were just 'feeders' for their ambitions - and they went bust twice on the back of it.

I thought the sport as a whole was in healthier state during the days when Wigan dominated. The international game was certainly more popular. They set a new benchmark of professionalism which led to the move towards Super League.

Warrington seem to now be taking the view that clubs like Wakefield and Salford exist so that they can produce young players for us to come and throw money around that they can't keep up with. Long may it continue.

to be honest grahams good but he aint as good as people make out, hes a prop who never runs the ball in, he passes, wouldnt have him over moz or carvell cos they make so many yards in each game its unbelievable

Dear God in Heaven.

Quite:

Metres Made 2009:

Graham: 4,713
Morley: 3,086
Carvell: 2,653

Can you imagine how good he could be if he ever ran the ball in and cut out all that poncy passing he does?

Indeed.

Though saying that, the chant has to be the most annoying one ever.

At the end of the day surely the only people allowed to gloat are the people who have achieved things themselves? Warrington fans haven't done anything to do with the Challenge Cup win, they just sat on their fat backsides and drunk beer while watching elite athletes in primrose and blue beat their rivals. If Adrian Morley wants to ring up Keiron Cunningham and ask him where his trophies are then fair enough but somebody on an internet forum with a Wiresforeversomething name jipping a St_Whatever, its a bit sad.

Sally. In the days that Wigan won everything the game was in a dreadful state. They were full time and everyone else was trying to keep up with them. Because no-one else was winning things gates were well down and Clubs were on the verge of going bust.
As for people stating that we were the new Wigan and that James Graham doesn't run with the ball, that's just ridiculous. Most of us wouldn't want to be called that, we are and always will be simply the WIRE. I don't particularly like James Graham, but he is an outstanding player and in the unlikely event of him signing for us, then I'm sure I could grow to like him very quickly.
As for gloating, yes I must admit I've done my fair share of it over the past few weeks, but having waited patiently for 35 years since the last CC Cup win, I really think I am entitled to gloat just a little.

It's called payback time.

THANKFREAKINGLORD!!!
And people wondered why I wasn't obsessed over the cup win.. it's not exactly us up there is it.

absalout bull, for the years of us having to listen to their arrogance and mocking us this year we are entitled to gloat, after all we are the team this year flying the flag for northwest rugby, so how about you get a grip and the rest of us gloat all we want cos we currently have the challenge cup sitting in warrington