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Quote: Wirefan "Is Agar's presence having a negative effect?'"


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Quote: Wirefan "Fear not comrades.

Yesterday's game was all about this Friday's game against Leeds if you get my drift.

I would expect all the missing players back ie, Harrison, Bridge and Atkins.

I would also expect the rest of the boys to be playing all out rather than just doing enough as was the case yesterday.

It's very difficult to back up in RL especially with such a short turnaround. There was no way we were gonna play all out against the Robins when we have Leeds round the corner.

Tony did such a great job of interchanging the forwards yesterday. They should be fresh and raring to go for Leeds.'"

Now this is a worry! Doom all over, then our usual Grim Reaper comes up with a highly positive post.

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Quote: Colin_Fishwick "OMG.

You guys don't get it do you.

Judge Wire in the games that they need to play well in, not the dead rubbers like Sunday.

If Wire played anywhere near their best against Hull KR it would have been a cricket score. What's the point in that when we need to conserve our energy and plays for the tough encounter against Leeds.

Let's see what happens on Friday before all you doom mongers and nay Sayers start bellyaching.'"


Well the comment I made was my concern about our lack of a kicking game. I really would be delighted for these concerns to be swept away after the Leeds and Saints games but I can't buy an argument that they're not kicking well from hand at the moment because they're somehow saving up all their good kicks for the "big" games.

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Quote: Colin_Fishwick "OMG.

You guys don't get it do you.

Judge Wire in the games that they need to play well in, not the dead rubbers like Sunday.

If Wire played anywhere near their best against Hull KR it would have been a cricket score. What's the point in that when we need to conserve our energy and plays for the tough encounter against Leeds.

Let's see what happens on Friday before all you doom mongers and nay Sayers start bellyaching.'"

If I was you, I would re-read this rather arrogant comment and then ask yourself seriously if you truly believe this disrespectful rubbish.
You can't predict match outcomes on previous season outcomes or on past performances. On your below par performance during the match yesterday, Hull KR could have beaten you if they hadn't coughed up the ball so much in the first half, which resulted in a lack of possession and meaningful field position.
The bottom line is that in common with a lot of other teams in SL including Hull Kr, Wire are not playing anywhere near their best yet this season and I don't see this improving while your most creative half back is playing at full back. In addition, there has been some strange results in SL and no game, irrespective of opposition, should be taken as a given or somehow regarded as a dead rubber. Most teams are improving. If your team walk on to the park with your perverse attitude and complacency it will bite them in the bum mate!
I like the way Wire play under TS, I like Wire fans and you scraped a win yesterday. Will you beat Leeds next up? On the evidence of yesterday, probably not.
We should have beaten Leeds first game of the season in the same way Wakey should have turned over Sts last Friday. Both Hull Kr and Wakefield will beat more teams than you think this season, as there are no dead rubbers or easy 2 points any more. Get used to it.

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I think our pack was looking a bit light, I'm looking forward to England's return, hilly is carrying us again,, and I think England will give Simms a run for his money when fit

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Quote: Colin_Fishwick "OMG.

You guys don't get it do you.

Judge Wire in the games that they need to play well in, not the dead rubbers like Sunday.

If Wire played anywhere near their best against Hull KR it would have been a cricket score. What's the point in that when we need to conserve our energy and plays for the tough encounter against Leeds.

Let's see what happens on Friday before all you doom mongers and nay Sayers start bellyaching.'"


Same old Fishwick........ sleepy.gif

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I keep harping on about this but I think as the season goes on we will be looking to dominate down the middle and will be almost abandoning the big shift plays.
TS is a shrewd cookie and he knows that referees are trying to allow a quick play the ball and he knew this when he signed Clarke, Russell etc.
TS - "Simon, we really need to sign a ball playing 6 and another pivot full back now Brett and limping Lee have packed in"
SJM - "Sorry Tony the cheque book is closed so you will have to find a halback from within the club but I will stretch to an queensland cup rookie"
I just don't see that at all. He knows what he is doing and I am sure we will see Ratchford, Clarke, Atkins, Myler and even Russell and Bridge score plenty of tries by jumping out of DH and backing up offloads from Harrison etc As the season progresses.
Joel back on the wing for quick PTB from kick returns will also play a big part in that.
The players that TS has brought to the club are here for a reason. Not just because they were the only ones available.

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Well there is one rumour I've heard that would back up the waiting for a big arrival in 2015. I don't really believe it though.

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Quote: garyhulsefan "Well there is one rumour I've heard that would back up the waiting for a big arrival in 2015. I don't really believe it though.'"


Not giving people a lot to go off here, are you?

What does his name rhyme with?

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Super bonk.

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He'll be here next season!!

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Some of our edge defence reminded me of '08 with KP playing outside Matt King and Louis Anderson. Louis would go walkabout looking to put a big shot on someone leaving King and Penny to squeeze in to plug the hole. Alarming that Rovers kept running down that channel and even after TS's touchline intervention we still didn't push up. A lot to work on there this week. One thing that stood out for me though, Campese is a top quality half back (with the size of a back-rower) who would have been just what we needed this year.

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Quote: garyhulsefan "Well there is one rumour I've heard that would back up the waiting for a big arrival in 2015. I don't really believe it though.'"



Not that old one thats doing the rounds......Cooper Cronk!

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Quote: MarginMeter "Well the comment I made was my concern about our lack of a kicking game. I really would be delighted for these concerns to be swept away after the Leeds and Saints games but I can't buy an argument that they're not kicking well from hand at the moment because they're somehow saving up all their good kicks for the "big" games.'"

For me, our poor kicking game will see us fall short in all comps this season. It is a huge area that we need to improve on massively.

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If we don't win anything this year, I think it will be because of our kicking game. However, that is not the same as saying we won't win anything despite the kicking game. We know we can beat any team in Super League and we may only need to do that two weeks running to win the Grand Final. St Helens didn't have a kicking game last year. Nor this year really either yet!

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Quote: Colin_Fishwick "Fear not comrades.

Yesterday's game was all about this Friday's game against Leeds if you get my drift.

I would expect all the missing players back ie, Harrison, Bridge and Atkins.

I would also expect the rest of the boys to be playing all out rather than just doing enough as was the case yesterday.

It's very difficult to back up in RL especially with such a short turnaround. There was no way we were gonna play all out against the Robins when we have Leeds round the corner.

Tony did such a great job of interchanging the forwards yesterday. They should be fresh and raring to go for Leeds.'"


Guess I was right after all.

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