I'm not saying that the players mentioned are/aren't under performing or that our recruitment success strike rate isn't woeful, especially recently, but your statement doesn't really hold much water IMO as we'd never sign anyone that's a success or let players go that achieve success elsewhere.

You only have to look at Saturday's game to realise that unfortunately, the latter is true .

But we have let them go & didn't they do well in their new environment? One player we let go several years ago has filled a good utility role wherever he's been. ,GO'B. Letting 2 of the best props in the league move on was a major cock up especially when we replace them with Catalans finest.

Ese'Ese coming to Hull now according to Hull Daily Mail

Just got to hope that recruitment isn't going to stop whilst we are in a transition between coaching teams

Warrington went cold on him. Very mixed opinions on him from the new coaching team. We don't need another 15 minute stint Kasiano type impact player.

Ese’Ese’s stats: https://www.zerotackle.com/players/herman-eseese/

Ese’Ese’s stats: https://www.zerotackle.com/players/herman-eseese/

I know the weekend before last he committed an act of lunacy that cost the Dolphins the chance to win the game, Bennett was fuming. He didn’t play weekend just gone. Looks pretty good but a tad lazy, still a good signing for Hull.

He plods around most of the time and takes a few good runs up and that's it from what i've seen. He's also bigger (not in a good way) this year then i've seen him before.
Burgess will have a much better view of the players in the NRL, so if he doesn't want him i'll trust his judgement

Well I might rattle a few cages as I’m 50/50 with Williams atm.

Why haven’t we seen the Williams that played for England earlier this season?
We’ve had plenty Patton haters over the seasons, but he’s shown more for Wire than I’ve seen from Williams.
I’ll say it as it is, it wouldn’t bother me none now to see him offload.
Spend his wasted money elsewhere.

I dunno, Duckie. There's someone on here who constantly tells us that a half back can only work his magic behind a dominant pack and considering our pack hasn't been dominant since about game 8, upto which Williams was doing perfectly fine, then I'd say they might have a worthwhile point?

I don't believe anyone [ihates [/iPatton. That's a silly phrase. The comparison is silly too. Williams is a current first pick for the international side whereas Patton is playing for a mid table Championship side. Williams has had some great games for us. Most notably before his contract extension in April.

Thats absolute hogwash duckie and you know it is

FMC, there’s a ladle of hogwash in there.
DSM, absolutely packs win games.

However part of me is hoping GW and Drinky is reading and prove me wrong because they look to me like they’ve given up.

Duckie, it must be exhausting for you to have to cover every base, just so you can come on here, at various points in the future, and tell everyone how you were right?

You do remind me of that saying about if you throw enough e at the wall, some of it will stick eventually...