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| Quote: Superblue "Lol, I stated a fact, you took it as criticism ,
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| Quote: Winslade's Offload "If Mulhern is such a good quality prop, why have HKR let him go ? In fact, surely they should have received a fee from Wire as well as Johnson ? Why has he only had one game for the Knights back in 2018 ? So the verdict is out for me. There could be a reason for his release if HKR were paying a too high salary and needed to trim down due to the ravages of Covid on their budgets, but that is the only one I can think of.
With few decent props around, few are likely to be happy sitting on the bench or even waiting in the squad for a game, so we are certainly much better off than last season in that respect. But I think we are looking at two bench props here, brought in to give Hill and Coops a rest and with the hope that Mulhern can be restored to his former glory whilst Butler kicks on and develops into a first team pick.
I think the reality is probably that Mulhern was not producing the goods at HKR and neither was Johnson at Wire. So this was a clever swap whereby both parties could try their hand at getting more from the players.'"
Hull KR wouldn't of demanded a fee for Mulhern as we would have demanded a fee for Johnson as they were both contracted to 2021. Mulhern was good for KR last year, it's this year he's stagnated but it's been a year all round and Apart from 3-4 players for KR none of them have really been good.
He also played twice for England knights in 2018 and played a game for the full England squad against France and prior to that has 4 caps for Ireland.
He might have stagnated abit but i'm not worried about that at all, as i believe he will get back his form with the like of Hill and Cooper around him. And Butler took his place in the england knights squad in 2019.
I'm very happy with these 2 signing with us and i'm not gonna pretend i'm not, Butler is the next hill for me but more aggressive and faster and he's a big lad, 6'2 and 17st i'm happy with that. And Mulhern is a great addition.
Johnson isn't cut out to be a prop and he's been here 3 years and virtually got no game time so moving him on to sign a young out and out Prop in Mulhern who is a proven Super league prop is good business on our side.
I've not been this happy with our forwards in about 5-6 years, now if we can sort the halfback issue out i'm excited and confident for next year with the sqaud we have.
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| Quote: Superblue "Lol, I stated a fact, you took it as criticism ,
Actually you gave your OPINION about the likely playing style.
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| Quote: Captain Hook "Actually you gave your OPINION about the likely playing style.'"
Your original comment referenced Props, do make your mind up
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| Quote: Or thane "Hull KR wouldn't of demanded a fee for Mulhern as we would have demanded a fee for Johnson as they were both contracted to 2021. Mulhern was good for KR last year, it's this year he's stagnated but it's been a poop year all round and Apart from 3-4 players for KR none of them have really been good.
He also played twice for England knights in 2018 and played a game for the full England squad against France and prior to that has 4 caps for Ireland.
He might have stagnated abit but i'm not worried about that at all, as i believe he will get back his form with the like of Hill and Cooper around him. And Butler took his place in the england knights squad in 2019.
I'm very happy with these 2 signing with us and i'm not gonna pretend i'm not, Butler is the next hill for me but more aggressive and faster and he's a big lad, 6'2 and 17st i'm happy with that. And Mulhern is a great addition.
Johnson isn't cut out to be a prop and he's been here 3 years and virtually got no game time so moving him on to sign a young out and out Prop in Mulhern who is a proven Super league prop is good business on our side.
I've not been this happy with our forwards in about 5-6 years, now if we can sort the halfback issue out i'm excited and confident for next year with the sqaud we have.'"
I would agree about Butler. His aggression and the fact that he " wen't away and worked on exactly the areas he needed to improve" whilst at London, plus his age ( 22) make him a really interesting prospect for us. But despite the fact that props seem to mature rather later in their careers, Mulhern is already 26 and I have a feeling he will turn out to be another Anthony England. I would love to be proved wrong of course.
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| Quote: Winslade's Offload "I would agree about Butler. His aggression and the fact that he " wen't away and worked on exactly the areas he needed to improve" whilst at London, plus his age ( 22) make him a really interesting prospect for us. But despite the fact that props seem to mature rather later in their careers, Mulhern is already 26 and I have a feeling he will turn out to be another Anthony England. I would love to be proved wrong of course.'"
England is a bit harsh at this point, I think we were trying to strike lucky twice from the championship, I hadn't heard anything promising about him when we signed him, he was just a big unit. Cas I think let him go from their academy into the championship.
Still though, we wait and see
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| Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "England is a bit harsh at this point, I think we were trying to strike lucky twice from the championship, I hadn't heard anything promising about him when we signed him, he was just a big unit. Cas I think let him go from their academy into the championship.
Still though, we wait and see'"
Yes, I suppose it's a waiting game. And as far as Butler is concerned he has a golden opportunity now to stake his claim so he will surely throw the kitchen sink at it. Any roads, the squad / team will be a lot more balanced next year. I hope we will also see Doro getting match time, if not he needs to go out on a season long loan rather than left to kick his heels on the sideline.
I wonder if we will offload Latu and Akauoala after the new SL club is announced this month ?
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| Quote: Winslade's Offload "I would agree about Butler. His aggression and the fact that he " wen't away and worked on exactly the areas he needed to improve" whilst at London, plus his age ( 22) make him a really interesting prospect for us. But despite the fact that props seem to mature rather later in their careers, Mulhern is already 26 and I have a feeling he will turn out to be another Anthony England. I would love to be proved wrong of course.'"
I hope so matey, i've got a good feeling but that's genuine excitement kicking in aswell I genuinely think we'vre got it right for next but like you say it's a case of time will tell
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| I would think the new SL club management will have done enough homework to steer well clear of our two stooges.
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| Quote: ninearches "I would think the new SL club management will have done enough homework to steer well clear of our two stooges.'"
Agree, we are certainly going to be stuck with Latu, sita could get a taker but I'd expect he would need to prove his fitness. I think someone like Watson at huddersfield would be able to get a lot out of sita to be honest.
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| We filled the prop problems, hopefully they settle and do the job for us... We just need our attack to function right now..
Am I optimistic about next year? not really, but I'll be there fingers crossed
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| Prop is solved, attack is absolutely not solved. We don't even know where to start on that because we may need to recruit a half back.
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| It's strange.
Sita's always had a bit of stick on here for his 'minutes', but many liked the impact he had.
But ever since he fell out of favour with SP it seems he's been persona non grata. Pushed to the outside by the club, and berated from all quarters on here.
I feel a lot of it is over the top.
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| Quote: fez1 "It's strange.
Sita's always had a bit of stick on here for his 'minutes', but many liked the impact he had.
But ever since he fell out of favour with SP it seems he's been persona non grata. Pushed to the outside by the club, and berated from all quarters on here.
I feel a lot of it is over the top.'"
I'm not on the "Sita Out" bus. I think he's got a job. Would love to see the stats behind.his performance for say his first 5 mins vs his third/fourth to clearly see the dip in his performance, be that carriers, tackles or meters made. I assume this is the reason he's labelled as a 10 min prop by price and now KF (which i found a bit odd in honesty,, digging at players still at the club)
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| There's nothing new or sinister about the criticism of Sita, certainly not from me.
He produces a couple of blockbusting runs and a few tackles
After 10 mins he's gassed and is slow retreating at the ptb
As a result, teams get behind him and make cheap yards or he gets penalised
His workrate drops and he gets subbed
He comes back on, repeat above with less impact
Throw in a sin binning here and there, and that is and always has been the story.
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