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Perhaps the time has come to stick someone else at left centre & put Ryan on the wing. His passing is limited but he has a safe pair of hands for catching.

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Well he surprised me last season.
He had a great year and finished off putting a few passes out...one even lead to a Lineham try!

On the bases of that I'm happy to continue with him at centre.

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I think Lineham Currie and Atkins will do very well off Brown and Ratchford.

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Quote: rubber duckie "I don't doubt your reasoning or caution about Russell. I'm far from his biggest fan.
My theorys based entirely upon the enhanced quality of squad supporting him...
Not the mention he was doing nicely for Scotland and outside of Peta in 2017.'"


Hiku did everything he possibly could not to give Russell the ball icon_lol.gif Hiku managed to score the same amount of tries in 11 games than Russell managed in an entire season icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Paul Youane "Thanks for the input Taylor. I hope things go well for you at Rochdale this season.'"


haha yeah good one icon_thumb.gif

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Atkins is strange one, do you want a centre who scores 8/9 tries a season who sets up loads for his winger or do you want a centre who scores 20 tries a season but only sets up few for his winger. I personally want the guaranteed 20 tries a season and not the other as if the winger drops form as isn't in the correct place at the right time then he wont score. Atkins is dependable and scores, that will do for me

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Quote: marshman777 "Atkins is strange one, do you want a centre who scores 8/9 tries a season who sets up loads for his winger or do you want a centre who scores 20 tries a season but only sets up few for his winger. I personally want the guaranteed 20 tries a season and not the other as if the winger drops form as isn't in the correct place at the right time then he wont score. Atkins is dependable and scores, that will do for me'"

Are you forgetting Atkins drop of form which was much more alarming at the time...and quite some time it was!?
Guaranteed I fear you're misguided.

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Quote: marshman777 "Atkins is strange one, do you want a centre who scores 8/9 tries a season who sets up loads for his winger or do you want a centre who scores 20 tries a season but only sets up few for his winger. I personally want the guaranteed 20 tries a season and not the other as if the winger drops form as isn't in the correct place at the right time then he wont score. Atkins is dependable and scores, that will do for me'"


Tom Linehan scored 21 tries last season

Ryan Atkins scored 16 tries last season

So where did the tries come from? I have no problem with either player.

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Quote: Builth Wells Wire "Tom Linehan scored 21 tries last season

Ryan Atkins scored 16 tries last season

So where did the tries come from? I have no problem with either player.'"


Atkins has 2 try assist to his name last season. 2.... That's it. For a centre whos winger scored 21 tries that is pathetic.

Lineham's Tries came from his own graft or via a face ball from Ratch.

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Quote: marshman777 "Atkins is strange one, do you want a centre who scores 8/9 tries a season who sets up loads for his winger or do you want a centre who scores 20 tries a season but only sets up few for his winger. I personally want the guaranteed 20 tries a season and not the other as if the winger drops form as isn't in the correct place at the right time then he wont score. Atkins is dependable and scores, that will do for me'"


It makes a big difference who's inside of him, when Currie's fit, he's got the skill and eye to put Lineham in when the pass is on by missing Atkins out, so in a way we have the best of both worlds. But when he's injured, we end up with 3 big guys on the left edge just running straight.

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Quote: AS108 "Currie is a great player if he can stay injury free but I don’t rate Dom Crosby at all. I think Saints will boss this season winning the shield and grand final with hull to win the cup again.'"


Not quite sure whether your a scouser or from East Yorkshire?

If your a Saint then I don't know where your Optimism is coming from. Have you made any signings this off season? You played 20 minutes of scintillating footie in the semi final and that was it.

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If Atkins could pass a ball he would be dynamite. The trouble is he gets a rush of blood every time he gets the ball and goes himself. There is nothing like a centre who can draw a man and pass to his winger. Creates so many more doubts in the defenders mind. He runs hard and can make the break, but he usually gets shut down before he does.

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Lineham has a surprisingly high strike rate and his stats from the last few years are impressive. Sometimes though last season (especially towards the end) he looked amateur against the lower teams in defence, regularly getting pushed off and waltzed past... I'm hoping it was just his attitude and that Price can fix his drive for professionalism. There's no doubting Lineham is a talent but he's not nearly performing up to his price tag.

Atkins may not pass much but he's generally solid in defence and scores when he's got the ball near the line. He doesn't look any less athletic than he was during the trophy-winning years, but regarding his passing - if it could be fixed it would have been by now. There aren't many good centres available so I guess we should be blessed we have one that scores regularly.

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Quote: easyWire "Lineham has a surprisingly high strike rate and his stats from the last few years are impressive. Sometimes though last season (especially towards the end) he looked amateur against the lower teams in defence, regularly getting pushed off and waltzed past... I'm hoping it was just his attitude and that Price can fix his drive for professionalism. There's no doubting Lineham is a talent but he's not nearly performing up to his price tag.

Atkins may not pass much but he's generally solid in defence and scores when he's got the ball near the line. He doesn't look any less athletic than he was during the trophy-winning years, but regarding his passing - if it could be fixed it would have been by now. There aren't many good centres available so I guess we should be blessed we have one that scores regularly.'"


I agree with everything you say Easy Wire. I think as do many who sit around me and who i meet up with at half time that Atkins would not look out of place in the second row. For all sense and purposes he is fulfilling the role of a second row with what he does. Strong runner in that he is difficult to slow down or stop when he is going for it!, Big and tackles when his attitude is right.

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I think he could extend his career by 3 4 years if he could effectively make the switch to backrow.
Not that he's too fussed, he's a barber now, so not only one at Saints, we've got his match!

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