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5 games into a new coach’s tenure, lost to Saints and Catalans, seems a bit early to say “it’s not working”.

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Quote: Captain Hook "5 games into a new coach’s tenure, lost to Saints and Catalans, seems a bit early to say “it’s not working”.'"

But the fact is our attack looks no better than it did under price. In fact, I'd say we look even worse.

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Quote: Moe syslak "But the fact is our attack looks no better than it did under price. In fact, I'd say we look even worse.'"

I’m not saying he’s the Messiah, just it takes time for systems to bed in, 3 off season signings haven’t made it onto the pitch. Give the new coach a bit of time before giving up on him.

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Quote: Moe syslak "But the fact is our attack looks no better than it did under price. In fact, I'd say we look even worse.'"



against saints and catalans, prior to that, as sky have highlighted, we did appear to have some success working our overlaps, the 3 on 3 and putting the winger in which we definitely weren't able to do last year, hence ratchford coming in for a lot of flak for his lack of assists.

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If the last 3 years of Lineham's tenure is the "Warrington Way" I'm glad we're changing course. Price's rugby league was awful to watch.

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Tom Lineham… “Darth Powell”

These are not the props you are looking for!

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Quote: Captain Hook "5 games into a new coach’s tenure, lost to Saints and Catalans, seems a bit early to say “it’s not working”.'"

What?..,when you’re 1/14 to win and get trounced? icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: rubber duckie "What?..,when you’re 1/14 to win and get trounced? What were the odds against HKR in the playoffs? Lots of work to do, so yes it is too early

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Far too early IMO. It would be good to have a full squad available before judging really. There hasn't been much in terms of performance, our prop situation really isn't helping at all. Catalans and saints are better than us, the spirit shown in fighting to the end against catalans was encouraging albeit too little, too late but we Steve price teams threw the towel in if we went 2 scores down and far too often scoring 20 points in a game looked very, very unlikely.

I hope we see some changes this week, time for Powell to select the players who are best adapting to his systems. Longstaff in for Hughes who for me shouldn't make the 17, I'd like to see butler for Philbin as well.

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I am happy for Powell to be given time build the success we aspire to.
Just looking at Huddersfield. Last year everybody was saying that Watson over performed at Salford because he was a Salford lad. It takes a good 12 months to 2 years to mould a team to how you want them. Similar applies to Brett Hodgson. It will take time. When you look at our results for Tony Smith's first year in charge we were pretty poor but managed to get a decent draw in the challenge cup. In 2010 apart from regulation defeats by saints, Leeds and wigan we only lost to Hull KR and Catalan away before the Huddersfield game when Nathan Brown went galloping down the touchline then progressing to the performances of 2011
The club need to be strong here. If players dont want to embrace the Powell philosophies then the club should back the coach all the way and if that results in big name players leaving then so be it. I am sure it took Tony Smith a bit of time to persuade players like Briers, Bridge, Westwood to buy into his style of play. It also took a while to sign Solomona that was a very similar player (ball handling) to Ali Lautiti that Smith signed for Leeds.
I would prefer we dont go back to signing the forwards like we have signed in recent years just because they are "available" or we go with what we have got and if the right player becomes available then we will be in a position to put a deal together.

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Quote: Deus Dat Incrementum "I am happy for Powell to be given time build the success we aspire to.
Just looking at Huddersfield. Last year everybody was saying that Watson over performed at Salford because he was a Salford lad. It takes a good 12 months to 2 years to mould a team to how you want them. Similar applies to Brett Hodgson. It will take time. When you look at our results for Tony Smith's first year in charge we were pretty poor but managed to get a decent draw in the challenge cup. In 2010 apart from regulation defeats by saints, Leeds and wigan we only lost to Hull KR and Catalan away before the Huddersfield game when Nathan Brown went galloping down the touchline then progressing to the performances of 2011
The club need to be strong here. If players dont want to embrace the Powell philosophies then the club should back the coach all the way and if that results in big name players leaving then so be it. I am sure it took Tony Smith a bit of time to persuade players like Briers, Bridge, Westwood to buy into his style of play. It also took a while to sign Solomona that was a very similar player (ball handling) to Ali Lautiti that Smith signed for Leeds.
I would prefer we dont go back to signing the forwards like we have signed in recent years just because they are "available" or we go with what we have got and if the right player becomes available then we will be in a position to put a deal together.'"


Well said. Tony Smith took time to get the side into shape and got rid of high profile players (Gleeson) and dropped others (Briers).

No more "filler" signings or "gamble" or "last chance saloons". Less is more. Go for quality.


Some atrocious singings since 2014 (start of our demise)

Roy Asotasi
Anthony England
Matthew Russell
Gary Wheeler
Ryan Bailey
Ben Pomeroy
Dom Crosby
Jordan Cox (RIP)
Matty Blythe
Sitaleki Akoula
Matty Smith
Lama Tasi
Leilani Latu
Luther Burrell


Quality players lost since 2014
Lee Briers
Ritchie Myler
Michael Monaghan
Brett Hodgson
Ben Westwood
Paul Wood
Ryan Atkins
Simon Grix
Trent Waterhouse

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Quote: Wires71 "Well said. Tony Smith took time to get the side into shape and got rid of high profile players (Gleeson) and dropped others (Briers).

No more "filler" signings or "gamble" or "last chance saloons". Less is more. Go for quality.


Some atrocious singings since 2014 (start of our demise)

Roy Asotasi
Anthony England
Matthew Russell
Gary Wheeler
Ryan Bailey
Ben Pomeroy
Dom Crosby
Jordan Cox (RIP)
Matty Blythe
Sitaleki Akoula
Matty Smith
Lama Tasi
Leilani Latu
Luther Burrell


Quality players lost since 2014
Lee Briers
Ritchie Myler
Michael Monaghan
Brett Hodgson
Ben Westwood
Paul Wood
Ryan Atkins
Simon Grix
Trent Waterhouse'"

Those. ‘Atrocious’ signings was hard reading.

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Huddersfield...

They've lost against Wigan and beaten no one special. Let's see how they do against Catalans, St Helens (and us) before we get carried away by Watson.

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Quote: Wires71 "
Some atrocious singings since 2014 (start of our demise)

Roy Asotasi
Anthony England
Matthew Russell
Gary Wheeler
Ryan Bailey
Ben Pomeroy
Dom Crosby
Jordan Cox (RIP)
Matty Blythe
Sitaleki Akoula
Matty Smith
Lama Tasi
Leilani Latu
Luther Burrell
'"


Oh God, I had forgotten that Matty Smith played for us! I must have been trying to block it out, for the purposes of mental self-preservation.

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Quote: Wires71 "Well said. Tony Smith took time to get the side into shape and got rid of high profile players (Gleeson) and dropped others (Briers).

No more "filler" signings or "gamble" or "last chance saloons". Less is more. Go for quality.


Some atrocious singings since 2014 (start of our demise)

Roy Asotasi
Anthony England
Matthew Russell
Gary Wheeler
Ryan Bailey
Ben Pomeroy
Dom Crosby
Jordan Cox (RIP)
Matty Blythe
Sitaleki Akoula
Matty Smith
Lama Tasi
Leilani Latu
Luther Burrell


Quality players lost since 2014
Lee Briers
Ritchie Myler
Michael Monaghan
Brett Hodgson
Ben Westwood
Paul Wood
Ryan Atkins
Simon Grix
Trent Waterhouse'"

Fair point, but of the atrocious signings how many were meant to be 1st 17?
I would guess Asotasi,, Russell, Akouala and Crosby (no one could have possibly foreseen what would happen). Maybe Latu? Rest were squad fillers in a salary capped sport.

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