Totally agree..Salford away after Wembley and cas at home in playoff noted me rigid

Happy to say I didn't watch a second of it. Now, dull middle aged housewives (yes, you Zoe Ball) won't be heard, saying "can't wait for the Rugby", anymore. Well, at least until the force fed 6 Nations starts again

The final was horrific watching. An absolute bore fest, errors, a total lack of curtting edge, poor decisions, appalling passing and handling and a referee that I just didn't understand at all. A win for rugby league yesterday, no matter how boring it's not as boring as watching South Africa v england or South Africa v Wales. That said I haven't seen what Steve has in store for next season yet, I'm not excited at all.

Not a good weekend for GB or England with the quality of rugby on show in either code, or the results.

Rugby Union World Cup Finals.

England played four, scored one try and that was by Jason Robinson. They kicked twelve penalties in those four games.

South Africa played three scored two tries both in the last fifteen minutes yesterday. They kicked sixteen penalties in the three games.

Throw in a referee that's desperate to give penalties and you have an appalling to spectacle. I'm not being bitter, the best side definitely won but wow it was bad.

Rugby league is similar now, I appreciate that there is low risk rugby, but what we seen now is no risk rugby!

I've seen England play 3 Rugby League World Cup finals and I can only remember them scoring one try across 3 games (Paul Newlove!)...?

OK, GB and England aren't very good in World Cup finals.

There will no doubt be a post-mortem after England's defeat in the final. What went wrong, where does English RU go from here.

This time I don't think the idea "we need to splash out big money to get some England-eligible RL players to cross codes" will not be high on the RFU agenda. Which might seem good news but is also a symptom that English RL is not in a great place.

If you were a RL player and you had the choice of going to RU or NRL which would you choose?

An 80 minute penalty shoot out ... with scrums

Agreed. RU final was terrible but GB v NZ pretty poor, too. Missed an opportunity there. All the more important that England find a team that can win OUR world cup in 2021.

NRL without a shadow of doubt. Going to RU is a huge risk in terms of being able to adapt. I think if you're going to make a decision to cross codes, it has to be done at the start of a career. If you're in a RL academy team and a professional RU team comes in and offers you a good contract with first team options that aren't there in RL, then it makes more sense. It's worth the investment in time to learn a different game at that stage rather than going mid career when you want to be making an impact immediately and I think a lot of players don't make that impact because they struggle with the transition.

Going to NRL would be the ultimate experience in RL, if you came back to SL you would almost certainly come back a better more rounded player. I think it's great when more English players go over there and it will help the international team. I know people say its bad for the game to lose our best stars but look at France in football, the French league always sends its best stars to the elite leagues and their players are better for it.

This reflects my own view on the subject. Crossing codes is a significant gamble for both parties. I don’t pay much attention to domestic RU but I can’t recall hearing much about Denny Solomona recently and he kept Charley out of Sale (I think), although for all I know he could be injured or have been playing in the World Cup!

Denny Solomona has scored a lot of tries in RU but he's had a few issues too. He was in the England squad but then fell out of favour after an alcohol-related incident and he got banned for homophobic abuse of another player.

But he was joint top scorer in the league this season. Given what I said above about many players finding it difficult to adjust, he deserves credit as he basically scored more than a try a game at Cas and came straight over to RU and went at around a try a game there too. I think he is a Henare-like talent.