It may have something do with the nickname that some people have given him."ratboy"

thats wot some wire fan on here said when wigan won u in the cup.................

priceless

That post has scarred me for life...

Explain how you manage that?

Hope he doesn't get banned.

Let him play and get smashed

if he does get banned then its only a excuse Wigan will use if we beat them. Rather us play a full strenght team, so if we win their can be no excuse from them.

Sod that, ban the little scrote. Wigan fans say it's a squad game about their victory in the QF. So let them play without Goldenchild and dick them by 50.

Also didn't he grab Bentham's arm in the game? I remember kicking off a stink about it. I'm sure that carries a minimum ban of about 3 games!

Nothing will happen to Sam Tomkins, do you really think the RFL have the backbone to suspend him for what could be a possible league leaders decider ?

Their is more chance of Brian "I'm not the taliban" Potter replacing Jon Clarke next season, although some on here may say that would be a big improvement

AS I have posted on the Saints site.


We got back last night and watched the recording of the final.

My thoughts.
Sam, bang out of order but probably understandable after the "history" of abuse from the Leeds fans. That's not an excuse but a reason. However he should have risen above it, I just wish he had scored that first try early on to see the reaction of the Sam and the Leeds fans.

Punishment.
Let the RFL sort it out not the kangaroo court of RL forums.
If similar incidents are used as a yardstick( Lee Smith v Wigan, Lee Bries v Leeds, Kyle Eastmond to his own fans, Matt King to his own fans, Terry O'Connor, I think was to Saints fans) then I suspect he will get a warning and maybe a fine. The fine if imposed should go to the R.S.P.C.A. for all the dogs and cats kicked around St.Helens and Warrington on Saturday afternoon.

The game,
Lima's second try was definitely forward. However there seems to be very little mention of the Ableett non play the ball in the build up to Leeds second try (it should have been a Wigan penalty) and I think the final pass was marginally forward.

Tommy try, correct decision in b.o.d. to the attacking side.
The scrum, Burrow plays the ball onto Charnley who did not play at the ball (even though he did touch it) so head and feed to Wigan.

Just a couple more, the two head high tackles on Burrow when he ducked into them and Leeds went onto score. No problem with the referee giving them but there were two similar tackles on Tommy L and Deacon that went unpunished. It's that sort of inconsistency that frustrates fans.

St Pete is correct that Joel Tomkins try is probably not the best at Wembley but it is up there with them, and almost certainly the best at the New Stadium.

On the Stadium itself, great facilities, great view, plenty legroom, but why spend all that money and do sod all with the infrastructure. We were staying overnight so went by coach, why no link direct road from the motorway? It was after 6 p.m by the time we got off the car park.
Still far too few restaurants and bars close to the stadium and not enough toilets outside the ground.

Would agree with most of that Rogues, the one you missed was the spear tackle, when a knock on was given and Wigan scored from it. That was a definate penalty.
Also agree about the roads and surroundings, access isn't great and the area as a whole is crap. The stadium reminds me of one of those spanish hotels that looks absolutely superb, but is in the middle of a building site.