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| Quote: ratticusfinch "Answer the question! Harking back to (more successful) Price seasons isn’t helping your argument. What are the green shoots I am currently seeing/missing?'"
Are you seriously trying to compare Price's 4 seasons with Powells half and expecting to match apples with apples?
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| Quote: Gazwire "Have you seen this year's results.'"
If we're judging coaches off this year your whole argument is flawed.
I do like your posts though
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| Quote: ratticusfinch "Answer the question! Harking back to (more successful) Price seasons isn’t helping your argument. What are the green shoots I am currently seeing/missing?'"
I've answered the f@@king question about 50 times in the past 2 weeks. To say once again, there were shoots in the Cats game, but mainly that patience is required when making a large upheaval.
For the last f@@king time, I'm not defending Powell this week or last, I'm defending a coaches right (any) to be given time. But I also respect the opinion that it has been dissapointing, and I agree with this.
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| Daryl Powell. 35% win ratio.
2nd worse coach ever at Warrington
only plange is worse with 25%.
if your on about hull krs season
6th in the league.
beat us both times this year.
scored more.
conceded less.
we are 4 points away from them and 4 points away from relegation.
something needed to change 4 weeks ago.
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| Quote: Philth "If we're judging coaches off this year your whole argument is flawed.
I do like your posts though'"
Explain.
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| Quote: Gazwire "I'm not defending Powell tonight. What i am defending is the right for a coach to be given time to fully implement changes. Not once have I defended any of Powell's decisions or influence on the game tonight.
I was happy after the Catalan game as I thought there were some green shoots - everyone else did - and even the Powell outs had changed their mind. At least I have the courage of my convictions and haven't flipped again.
You and some others though, do seem to be a little obtuse on the potential impact a cultural change, such as this, will have on a team. I can understand some people wanting him out now, he's harder to defend after tonight.
The problem you have, along with all the other Powell out mob, is that if Powell goes now, you'll never be able to say you were right as we'll never know how good or bad he would been.
He ain't going anywhere though.'"
I do admire your loyalty and yes I have flip-flopped…I just cannot see this working now though. He’s building a team of mercernaries and it won’t work. I just cannot see past Holmes continually selected and now over Nicholson ( a genuine superstar), minikin over wrench, Ratchford two year deal and cooper at Wigan whilst a Widnes bound Amor flails about like it’s an over 45 charity game. These aren’t the decisions of a coach who knows what he’s doing - he’s expecting a fantasy football pack next season which everything will flow off the back of….it doesn’t work like that. He’s rubbish!
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| Quote: wire2004 "Daryl Powell. 35% win ratio.
2nd worse coach ever at Warrington
only plange is worse with 25%.
if your on about hull krs season
6th in the league.
beat us both times this year.
scored more.
conceded less.
we are 4 points away from them and 4 points away from relegation.
something needed to change 4 weeks ago.'"
Over half a season with a massive upheaval. Jesus wept.
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| Quote: Gazwire "Have you seen this year's results.'"
I’m not sure you can harbour your views on Powell‘a credentials if you’re writing off Tony Smith for having an indifferent year with Hull KR.
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| Quote: Gazwire "I've answered the f@@king question about 50 times in the past 2 weeks. To say once again, there were shoots in the Cats game, but mainly that patience is required when making a large upheaval.
For the last f@@king time, I'm not defending Powell this week or last, I'm defending a coaches right (any) to be given time. But I also respect the opinion that it has been dissapointing, and I agree with this.'"
WHAT ARE THE SHOOTS???? That’s not a pop I genuinely want to know what the plus side of this season is that you see that I don’t. You haven’t said anything specific in that regard.
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| Quote: Gazwire "Over half a season with a massive upheaval. Jesus wept.'"
Pack it in. The upheaval was of his own making….and I get a feeling he’s making it up as he goes along.
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| Quote: ratticusfinch "I do admire your loyalty and yes I have flip-flopped…I just cannot see this working now though. He’s building a team of mercernaries and it won’t work. I just cannot see past Holmes continually selected and now over Nicholson ( a genuine superstar), minikin over wrench, Ratchford two year deal and cooper at Wigan whilst a Widnes bound Amor flails about like it’s an over 45 charity game. These aren’t the decisions of a coach who knows what he’s doing - he’s expecting a fantasy football pack next season which everything will flow off the back of….it doesn’t work like that. He’s rubbish!'"
I too share these concerns and I think he's made mistakes. But his track record over the long period shows overall improvement with all the clubs he's been at. I'm hoping/thinking he'll learn.
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| Quote: Gazwire "I've answered the f@@king question about 50 times in the past 2 weeks. To say once again, there were shoots in the Cats game, but mainly that patience is required when making a large upheaval.
For the last f@@king time, I'm not defending Powell this week or last, I'm defending a coaches right (any) to be given time. But I also respect the opinion that it has been disappointing, and I agree with this.'"
so would you have given Steve Anderson (35.2% over 34 games) and David plange (25% over 16 games) more time???
the latter putting us in a relegation dog fight after his predecessor bought a crap atmosphere into the club.
Paul Cullen secured the safety with 6 games by winning 2 of them.
change is needed now to steady the ship because, at present. I don't know where our next win is coming from
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| Quote: Barbed Wire "I’m not sure you can harbour your views on Powell‘a credentials if you’re writing off Tony Smith for having an indifferent year with Hull KR.'"
I was being facetious. I was using the same barometer some others are using to judge Powell - just over half a season.
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| Quote: ratticusfinch "Pack it in. The upheaval was of his own making….and I get a feeling he’s making it up as he goes along.'"
Of course we didn't need upheaval - we've been doing really well over the past 6/7 odd years.
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| Quote: Gazwire "I too share these concerns and I think he's made mistakes. But his track record over the long period shows overall improvement with all the clubs he's been at. I'm hoping/thinking he'll learn.'"
He shouldn’t be needing to learn to help us avoid relegation!!! We cannot get absolute basics right. This is just a bad fit like Damned United and we need to hurry up and accept it.
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