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| It's all gone too far for me,.
Dislike the lad myself. Very good (long way to go before called great) player.
His silly childish antics get peoples back up.
But this booing has actually made me feel for the kid. Playing for your country should not be like it was for him.
Anyone can express their opinion, and paying fans have a right to boo if they want.
However, my opinion is that its childish and brings the game of RL into disrepute. part of the reason i love this game is the respect within it.
If that goes then i may follow.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "This sums up many rl fans in this country. They love to bang on and on about how its good to see 'young English talent' emerging and the future of the game is bright, and 90% of the players they reckon are young English talent are substandard at the highest level.
When occasionally a player emerges who has genuine ability, James Graham, Kyle Eastmond, Sam Tomkins, he becomes a figure of hate.
I await to see the impact Rhys Evans has on rival clubs fans in a few years
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO'"
Except for the fact nobody booed James Graham. Infact, nobody booed anyone but Sam Tomkins. Pretty sure Tomkins wasn't the only Wigan player or the only player who's disliked.
That he was booed just speaks volumes about how bad he is. And hopefully it's a wake up call to the little rat.
Some people have morals that come before blind patriotism. You blokes sat around reading the Daily Mail might easily be able to lose yourself in the red and white, for others we have a strict code of ethics and values that come before a half-d Rugby League game and a trivial English team.
Be thankful that booing is the only stage it's gotten to. If he doesn't change his act you'll literally see games boycotted.
What a vile human being, hopefully the message sinks into his ugly head.
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| Quote: Ganson's Optician "Read briefly yesterday that Sam hasn't ruled out switching codes, and today's carry on will have done absolutely nothing to convince him to stay, look at how England RU players are treated. As much as I dislike him, you put that aside in an international and I don't like to see anyone move over to yawnion.'"
RU has nobody in the game comparable to Tomkins, and their international games actually matter. There's a slight difference.
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| The only thing i can think of as to why the fans were booing Sam Tomkins is because he's isn't english, he's from Milton Keynes. It won't be because he plays for Wigan as i didn't hear his brother or Sean O'Loughlin getting boos and neither did Pat Richards or Leuluai.
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| Respect to most of the Wire fans on here (apart from Nikaed, what a loser) You lot have just gone above the Leeds fans in my 'fans i respect the most' table
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44920_1327005775.png [quote="Harrigan":1th0f7ap]Wigan are the most structured team I have ever seen in this country.[/quote:1th0f7ap]
[quote="NickyKiss":1th0f7ap]As a fan Wane makes you want to run through a brick wall so you can only imagine how he makes the players feel![/quote:1th0f7ap]
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| Quote: Nikaed "Not at vague at all. So you've never seen him kick out as he's getting up to play the ball and catch somebody in the face? Done it loads of time and been warned by the RFL. He punched Westwood before Ben cracked him. CC semi at Widnes in 2009 he started on Matt King after the ball had gone dead, King laughed at him. Check avatar. I'll excuse you from missing that as most Wigan fans missed the game. I don't need to post video links as all these incidents are fact pal. I'll put it down to you either being A) Incredibly biased B) Thick as foook. I apologise in advance for embarassing you and making you look an utter bellend.'"
I have honestly never seen him kick a player in the face, and I certainly didn't realise he'd been cautioned for it. I've just had a look at his disciplinary record to see if you're right and can't see any mention of it. I've even searched the general disciplinary record for mentions of "Law 15.1(a) Trips, kicks or strikes another player", and whilst lots of players have been cited for it, he wasn't one of them. Maybe you can help me pin point the incidents you're talking about. What games did they occur in? What were the disciplinary reference numbers?
I've just rewatched the Westwood incident and honestly, I can't see any evidence of Sam punching him. At most it looks like he was holding him down and Westwood lashed out in frustration. There literally isn't any footage of Sam throwing a punch, and the RFL didn't cite him for punching (like they did with Westwood). Are you absolutely sure about what you're claiming? Could you point me to any footage I might have overlooked?
Interesting how your becoming increasingly agitated, especially with me asking for video links. It should be relatively easy if these incidents did actually happen and aren't, in fact, made up. And have you thought about how logical it is to state that facts do not require evidence in order to be deemed facts? In fact (pun) to go so far as to say they do not require evidence [ibecause[/i they are facts. I mean, wow! There's a certain irony in insulting me as "thick as foook" and believing [ime [/ito be embarrassed, isn't there? Well, I'm a little embarrassed on your behalf if that counts.
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44920_1327005775.png [quote="Harrigan":1th0f7ap]Wigan are the most structured team I have ever seen in this country.[/quote:1th0f7ap]
[quote="NickyKiss":1th0f7ap]As a fan Wane makes you want to run through a brick wall so you can only imagine how he makes the players feel![/quote:1th0f7ap]
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| Quote: r a n c i d "Some people have morals that come before blind patriotism. You blokes sat around reading the Daily Mail might easily be able to lose yourself in the red and white, for others we have a strict code of ethics and values that come before a half-d Rugby League game and a trivial English team.'"
Ah, so the reason people cheered when he was dumped on his head, and the reason they celebrated when Raynor knocked him out, when Ablett tried and when Westwood had a good attempt, and the reason they talk so openly about what fouls they would like to see committed against him and the injuries they would like to see result, is because of their superior moral code. By contrast the reason we oppose such thuggery is because we are morally vacuous. Got ya.
Quote: r a n c i d "What a vile human being, hopefully the message sinks into his ugly head.'"
There goes that superior moral code again.
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| I fail to see your point.
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| Surely it's not that Wigan fans have the moral high ground on this so soon after Maguiregate?
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| Warning: Electric Gliding Warrior is never wrong and will go on and on and on and on and on and on to prove his point.
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Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "I have honestly never seen him kick a player in the face, and I certainly didn't realise he'd been cautioned for it. I've just had a look at his disciplinary record to see if you're right and can't see any mention of it. '"
Suggest you search back more than one month then because here's a discilplinary record from less than two months ago. So how you can claim no "mention" of it is beyond me.
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?2565
Supports my selectioon of Option B as being correct I think.
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Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "I have honestly never seen him kick a player in the face, and I certainly didn't realise he'd been cautioned for it. I've just had a look at his disciplinary record to see if you're right and can't see any mention of it. '"
Suggest you search back more than one month then because here's a discilplinary record from less than two months ago. So how you can claim no "mention" of it is beyond me.
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?2565
Supports my selectioon of Option B as being correct I think.
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44920_1327005775.png [quote="Harrigan":1th0f7ap]Wigan are the most structured team I have ever seen in this country.[/quote:1th0f7ap]
[quote="NickyKiss":1th0f7ap]As a fan Wane makes you want to run through a brick wall so you can only imagine how he makes the players feel![/quote:1th0f7ap]
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| Quote: r a n c i d "I fail to see your point.'"
Your failure is not in the least bit surprising.
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44920_1327005775.png [quote="Harrigan":1th0f7ap]Wigan are the most structured team I have ever seen in this country.[/quote:1th0f7ap]
[quote="NickyKiss":1th0f7ap]As a fan Wane makes you want to run through a brick wall so you can only imagine how he makes the players feel![/quote:1th0f7ap]
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44920_1327005775.png [quote="Harrigan":1th0f7ap]Wigan are the most structured team I have ever seen in this country.[/quote:1th0f7ap]
[quote="NickyKiss":1th0f7ap]As a fan Wane makes you want to run through a brick wall so you can only imagine how he makes the players feel![/quote:1th0f7ap]
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| Quote: Paul Youane "Suggest you search back more than one month then because here's a discilplinary record from less than two months ago. So how you can claim no "mention" of it is beyond me.
I still can't see any mention of a caution, nor of him kicking a player in the face. Am I clicking the right link? If that's meant to be the reason Tomkins is hated, might I suggest you submit that link to "Most Tenuous Justification Award 2011"?
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| Quote: Paul Youane "Suggest you search back more than one month then because here's a discilplinary record from less than two months ago. So how you can claim no "mention" of it is beyond me.
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