Bizarre comparison. Mikaele and Harrison will be on at least double the wages of Doro and Robson.

"at least double", and you know this how? I do understand what you may have been driving at and BOD instead of "Bizarre comparison", it might have read "Simplistic comparison"?

Surely it's all about balance and on here we've generally recognised that we've lost quality up front from the days of say Morley, Carvell, Wood and Hill, with a noticeable drop off (recently) when Hill and Cooper were off the pitch not to mention the toll on the players due to heavy load that these two took on.

This season we still have Cooper doing his thing and Mikaele/Harrison should be better than Robson/Doro, at least it looks like they'll get picked which in turn keeps Philbin and Mulhern on their toes so overall I'd say an improvement

Same here.
To me, Powell comes across as an old fashioned "ranter and raver" in your Alex Murphy/Tony Barrow mould, rather than an "arm around the shoulder" Tony Smith kind of guy. Smith showed his determination with Gleeson, rather than Powell's "throwing baby and bath water" approach. That's (to me) what was needed.

That's been Price's approach and look where it's got us - nowhere. I don't know for sure, but Price comes across as Mr Nice, letting players go home early etc. when really these players have needed a rocket up their backsides.

Smith was a nice guy too and during the last 2 years of his spell, the players threw him under the bus.

If we get another Mr nice, arm around for encouragement types, the players might end up leaving training even earlier than under Price.

We could perhaps hire in a load of personal counsellors accompanied by 17 tons of josticks to persuade them to stay til the end of training. Then buy in 17 tonnes of scented candles with accompanying hypnotherapist chanting 'put some f##king effort in'.

Didn't Tony Smith crack down straight away with Mark Gleeson & kick him through the gates of the HJ. I have often wondered though , if it was player power that got rid of TS & once certain ones had the upper hand it carried on under Price.
Powell is probably working on the theory that attitude to the job in hand ,the club , your teammates & paying fans is more important than being the best that money can buy. Hopefully ,due diligence will be carried out on future overseas players gracing the HJ pitch & not just the watching of a highlights reel from a player's agent.

Ppl forget the other thing with gleeson was he wanted out. He'd said he wanted a move to the nrl, just a few weeks into the season, him getting moved on was down to him wanting to leave

Not sure he's a "ranter and raver" like that but I think he's a dour uncompromising Yorkshireman who won't indulge players that aren't with the programme. One of the reasons I was keen on the Powell appointment was because he seemed perfect for breaking the old "jobs for the boys" cliquey culture at the club. The other two coaches I would have liked: Brian McDermott and Shaun Wane, are similar characters.

Now...this approach does not always work. The warning analogy from another sport is Graeme Souness at Liverpool, when he took over a squad which needed an overhaul and managed to alienate everyone by moving too fast and he set the club back years. What really did for Souness was he made crap signings. There was logic behind the rest of what he was trying to do but when you move out good players and sign tripe you go in the wrong direction.

Worth remembering that it took about 4-5 years to rebuild that team from when we started spending (signing Gleeson/Fa'afili) to becoming real contenders. We rebuilt then plateaued under Cullen/Lowes and then needed a tweak with a new coach/outlook which we got bringing in TS and the CCs started to arrive.

I think the situation at the end of the Price era was different. It wasn't a team packed with superstars which just needed a tweak to get us over the line. That's where lots of our fans thought we were over the last couple of years and you'd hear things like "we have as good a squad as anybody we just need the right coach". I never bought that argument. I thought we had a squad of good-but-not-great players who were a bit overrated and who weren't leaders and were soft when it came to turning round situations that were going against us. I didn't think any coach was going to get that group of players to win Grand Finals, we needed to refashion the type of player we had in the squad, find players with a different mentality, different level of hunger and find some leaders.

That meant we were more in the world of rebuild rather than tweak.

i have absolutley NO problem with the coach, getting rid of players like this and replacing them with short term options... even if they are of a lesser quality... we arent winning anything this season, so the open heart surgery is warranted.

His no1 priority is to get rid of the bad apples.... if we then get a replacement to the end of the season, also good, as it doesnt tie down the salary cap and the position can be properly recruited, for next season.

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For some reason I though Wardle was off contract this year and almost confirmed by Wigan fans to be joining them.