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Quote: rubber duckie "Have the wheels fell off?

Hill wanted out
Cooper wanted out

Then

Big Tom wants out
Clark wants out
McCarthy got out
Dufty wants out
McGuire hardly in, off out, and perhaps had set this up to get out with severance.

Loss of early promise, with double back to back defeats loss/loss loss/loss, all reminiscent of 2022.

The rot back, just papered over?'"


Ii’ll be open, I like KF as a bloke…
But you look at his tenure, and it’s been failure upon failure and still even more failure.

At what point does the manager become accountable?

In every work place I had been, when things go wrong in a company, and because of it there are redundancies, it’s always the manager that goes first.

The Admirable is always the person responsible for having a happy ship….and all we see is mutiny.

I have to hold my hands up and say that Saddened’s remarks on Twitter about Wire being no different this season to last, look harder to argue about.

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Away from all of this maguire stuff. Regardless of if we appeal on the basis of hearsay and whatnot. or if we terminate the contract of Maguire. What Now needs to be done at Ownership level. (Moran and Middleton. READ THIS) is a FULL Clear out of the Players (minus maybe 6 who actually put the effort in) And The Coaching staff and The CEO of the club.

The Players we have are NOT good enough. They seem to still do what they want. They lack effort. Motivation and pride and seemingly go into business for themselves.
The coaching Staff have bought a new culture to the club that Stinks. A grand Total of 27 Games have been given to 2 players for actions that the coaching staff needed to have addressed before hand. Whether in Maguires case. We didn't play him against leigh. Or in Dudson's case. we didn't play him in france if he was that irate with the player supposedly doing his wife behind his back.
The CEO Is allowing it to happen on his watch. What is going on culturally in the club that has not been there since the Days of Paul Cullen.

I've Not seen So Much negativity from the Press in relation to Warrington players conduct since at least the early 2000's.

Things Need to change, Because the Club is becoming Toxic for all the wrong reasons now. It's not about the rugby. It's about the players attitudes towards the club and the badge and fans they represent.

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Fair to say the next few games are the linchpin on which our season hangs. If we lose to a terrible Hudds side at home, you can guarantee the boo brigade will be out in force, then if we lose to Wigan in the cup people will be saying we've imploded or are in free fall. We've got Wigan, Leigh, Salford, Saints and HKR all breathing down our necks with only two points between us and dropping out the six depending on results.

So, it's up to DP to gee this lot up, the leadership skills needed to turn this around haven't been on display yet, but we'll see what the next few weeks brings. I'm still unsure if its a toxic environment, hence why everyone wants out, but if he's really failed to change the culture, it would speak volumes.

If all these players just don't want to play for the guy, who is to blame? The players, or the management for putting someone at the head who can't command the teams' respect?

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At least our rings won't be twitching this season as we rely on a team losing to keep us in SL.

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Fitzpatricks recruitment has been nothing short of shocking and Powell agreeing to these signings just as guilty.

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Quote: OnTheBeach "Powell is toxic… gotta be!
CEO Karl just as bad.

See ya lads.'"


Fair weather fans may be an issue.

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Quote: Smiffy27 "Fair weather fans may be an issue.'"


Not sure if/why your coming at me pal.
Behave yourself.
A fan is a fan at the end of the day.

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Quote: OnTheBeach "Not sure if/why your coming at me pal.
Behave yourself.
A fan is a fan at the end of the day.'"


Bit touchy there, fella?.. You realised that some of your hyperbole might be a bit laughable?.. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Bit touchy there, fella?.. You realised that some of your hyperbole might be a bit laughable?.. He dishes it, but can’t take it.

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Quote: rubber duckie "He dishes it, but can’t take it.'"


Saints fan, isn't he? icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Bit touchy there, fella?.. You realised that some of your hyperbole might be a bit laughable?..
Not at all my friend.

Everyone’s entitled to an opinion but making cruel accusations about one being a saints fan is beyond the pale.

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Quote: OnTheBeach "Not at all my friend.

Everyone’s entitled to an opinion but making cruel accusations about one being a saints fan is beyond the pale.'"

Absolutely, I wouldn’t call my worst enemy a saints fan!

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I don't agree with Powell being Toxic in anyway shape or form, he's good guy trying to do his job.
He turned Cas around as a club and built a team that played hard for each other and responded to Powell really well.
So unless he's been paid alot of money by the grinch to ruin the club, it's a very harsh comment on him.
Mikaele leaving was not his doing, McGuire being an idiot is not his doing, Dudsons brain fart was not his doing etc etc Do people forget we're 10 wins from 14? Fair enough our form is wobbling at the minute but you can't say that's down to Powell or we'd be at the bottom of the table again. We need the forwards (not just vaughan) to kick in to gear to lay a platform. Dudson is so mediocre it's unreal, Kasiano is hit and miss, James Harrison is good but not great, Philbin has had a few good games and a few bog standard ones, and Bullock was on fire before gis injury but hasn't found that form again. Some players are consistantly good with loads of effort each week, and some aren't.
I like Drinkwater but he hasn't been great since he went back to Catalans and he's still bog standard for us, he's played his entire career on the left but has been moved to the right, that CAN'T be an easy transition.
We will steady the ship at some point and kick in to gear again, and hopefully get a replacement for Mikaele finally.

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Quote: Or thane "I don't agree with Powell being Toxic in anyway shape or form, he's good guy trying to do his job.
He turned Cas around as a club and built a team that played hard for each other and responded to Powell really well.
So unless he's been paid alot of money by the grinch to ruin the club, it's a very harsh comment on him.
Mikaele leaving was not his doing, McGuire being an idiot is not his doing, Dudsons brain fart was not his doing etc etc Do people forget we're 10 wins from 14? Fair enough our form is wobbling at the minute but you can't say that's down to Powell or we'd be at the bottom of the table again. We need the forwards (not just vaughan) to kick in to gear to lay a platform. Dudson is so mediocre it's unreal, Kasiano is hit and miss, James Harrison is good but not great, Philbin has had a few good games and a few bog standard ones, and Bullock was on fire before gis injury but hasn't found that form again. Some players are consistantly good with loads of effort each week, and some aren't.
I like Drinkwater but he hasn't been great since he went back to Catalans and he's still bog standard for us, he's played his entire career on the left but has been moved to the right, that CAN'T be an easy transition.
We will steady the ship at some point and kick in to gear again, and hopefully get a replacement for Mikaele finally.'"

I’ve said it before, current rugby players are thick, some thicker than others.

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Quote: Or thane "I don't agree with Powell being Toxic in anyway shape or form, he's good guy trying to do his job.
He turned Cas around as a club and built a team that played hard for each other and responded to Powell really well.
So unless he's been paid alot of money by the grinch to ruin the club, it's a very harsh comment on him.
Mikaele leaving was not his doing, McGuire being an idiot is not his doing, Dudsons brain fart was not his doing etc etc Do people forget we're 10 wins from 14? Fair enough our form is wobbling at the minute but you can't say that's down to Powell or we'd be at the bottom of the table again. We need the forwards (not just vaughan) to kick in to gear to lay a platform. Dudson is so mediocre it's unreal, Kasiano is hit and miss, James Harrison is good but not great, Philbin has had a few good games and a few bog standard ones, and Bullock was on fire before gis injury but hasn't found that form again. Some players are consistantly good with loads of effort each week, and some aren't.
I like Drinkwater but he hasn't been great since he went back to Catalans and he's still bog standard for us, he's played his entire career on the left but has been moved to the right, that CAN'T be an easy transition.
We will steady the ship at some point and kick in to gear again, and hopefully get a replacement for Mikaele finally.'"

You're defending Powell yet saying a lot of HIS signings are poor players.

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