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Quote: jools "You have to get behind the players. The way the fans behaved at the end was shocking.
They may not have bought into Powell, but if they don’t want to play for the fans then that’s down to the way you treat them.'"

I wasn’t at Hudds so don’t know how bad it got, but totally agree with your sentiment. We need to get the place rocking from the very start against Toulouse. I might even put my prawn sandwich down and get cheering.

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Quote: jools "You have to get behind the players. The way the fans behaved at the end was shocking.
They may not have bought into Powell, but if they don’t want to play for the fans then that’s down to the way you treat them.'"

Have a read of Mike Greg's book. Wire fans don't expect to win all the time. They are very knowledgeable and all they want to see is 100% effort. If they don't see that then they will let you know. I honestly can't remember a team with Mike Gregory in it ever getting booed off(and we had some pretty bad defeats!)

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Quote: Moe syslak ". I honestly can't remember a team with Mike Gregory in it ever getting booed off(and we had some pretty bad defeats!)'"


You have a very selective memory then.

Mike Gregory was an exceptional player and a club legend, but his era wasn't exactly a huge success and there were plenty of lows during it and while Wilderspool was an intimidating place for the opposition, it wasn't afraid of showing its disapproval of a poor Wire display.

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Quote: Moe syslak "Have a read of Mike Greg's book. Wire fans don't expect to win all the time. They are very knowledgeable and all they want to see is 100% effort. If they don't see that then they will let you know. I honestly can't remember a team with Mike Gregory in it ever getting booed off(and we had some pretty bad defeats!)'"

The reason they never got boo’d off, was back then, our feet were so frozen cold, that if we knew we were beaten, we were off up Fletcher St before the whistle went to get warmed up.
It was freakin’ cold in them days.

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Quote: jools "You have to get behind the players. The way the fans behaved at the end was shocking.
They may not have bought into Powell, but if they don’t want to play for the fans then that’s down to the way you treat them.'"


Wasn't at the game so cannot comment on behaviour. If there was violence and abuse - that's not on. Booing and derision is perfectly normal.

I am interested in where this "it's the fans fault" narrative is coming from though. The fault is clearly with the coaching staff and expensively assembled squad. We have sufficient talent to avoid relegation. I am amazed I have had to write that last sentence.

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When it was a bunch of part time players, trying their best for a win bonus it was more forgivable - with full time professional players earning a decent wedge, and supporters paying what feels like at times a hefty price of admission - then it's fair game to show their displeasure at a disappointing on field effort.

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Boring now with Toulouse losing. icon_sad.gif

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Quote: DallasMead2 "Boring now with Toulouse losing.
Won’t be boring if Toulouse win next week.

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Without apportioning blame, as this has been discussed a-plenty: if the coach and players can't muster a win next week, then it will be, probably, the biggest disgrace ever witnessed in a Wire shirt.

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Quote: Gazwire "Without apportioning blame, as this has been discussed a-plenty

The teams around us are playing like it’s last chance saloon, I just don’t see that from our team at all.

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Quote: karetaker "The teams around us are playing like it’s last chance saloon, I just don’t see that from our team at all.'"


Absolutely - Toulouse lost, but came very close to winning and showed a desperation that has been conspicious by its absence from us for some time now.

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Quote: karetaker "The teams around us are playing like it’s last chance saloon, I just don’t see that from our team at all.'"


I share your fears. If there's one thing we can't accuse our club's players of not doing; is underestimating our opponents.

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Quote: Gazwire "I share your fears. If there's one thing we can't accuse our club's players of not doing; is underestimating our opponents.'"


Exactly, just said on the other thread Phil Clarke as just said about tomorrow we will either win or we will lose by 50 and I fear that is more likely and that will really affect our points for/against

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Quote: karetaker "Exactly, just said on the other thread Phil Clarke as just said about tomorrow we will either win or we will lose by 50 and I fear that is more likely and that will really affect our points for/against'"


If we even win tomorrow, I'll eat my hat. If we win by 50, then I'll eat all the hats in a hat shop after purchasing all of them - (otherwise they wouldn't be my hats to eat).

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I don't know if it's the fizz, the many concussions received in life or old age kicking on, but I think we're going to do it tomorrow.

We'll go in knowing it's a hard contest, knowing we have to concentrate and knowing it's never job done. We'll also go in as underdogs, and this lot need that, because any form of expectation makes them crumble. Wigan, perversely may being lazer focus to our band of misfits

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