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2 refs will sort out a lot of problems


Just need to find some decent ones now.

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Quote: Dropkick Murphy "In my opinion the game would be far better without Sky Sports, as would most others.

Yes, the players would be getting paid less and most would be semi-pro, but why would that be a problem for the paying supporter? It was the case for a century of the sport pre-Super League, and it managed to exist then and would continue to do so.

The first thing pro-Sky campaigners will say is that all the players will go to Australia or rugby union, but we seem to lose the absolute elite players to them now anyway, and ultimately there are only so many NRL and RFU contracts to go round. The NRL won't suddenly sign up half of SL, and not all league players are suited to union or would command contracts ahead of the lads who have played that game their whole lives. Plenty would still want to play in Super League and if we were watching them at a lower cost than we currently pay to get in with 90% of games kicking off at 3pm on a Sunday then I would personally be a lot happier and I suspect some others would be too.'"


"as would most others" or "personally be a lot happier and I suspect some others would be too"....Make your mind up.

I don't have Sky Sports, but, thank goodness it's available IMO as I attend most games but can't on Friday but will find it on somewhere in a pub or would you expect me and other displaced species to be happy listening on a wireless somewhere?

Depending upon your average ticket price to maintain the same income clubs would have to generate quite a few thousand fans every week and as you alluded to earlier there isn't a massive total walk up to the HJ even though we have been playing great RL, or do you seriously think that fans would be encouraged to flock every other week by a standard KO time and a semi pro game?

Sky Sports is not the root of all evil, you're a football fan do you want to see a return to the days of Gerald Sinstatd and Brian Moore with coverage limited to a highlights programme and the odd live game?

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Quote: Uncle Rico ""as would most others" or "personally be a lot happier and I suspect some others would be too"....Make your mind up.

I don't have Sky Sports, but, thank goodness it's available IMO as I attend most games but can't on Friday but will find it on somewhere in a pub or would you expect me and other displaced species to be happy listening on a wireless somewhere?

Depending upon your average ticket price to maintain the same income clubs would have to generate quite a few thousand fans every week and as you alluded to earlier there isn't a massive total walk up to the HJ even though we have been playing great RL, or do you seriously think that fans would be encouraged to flock every other week by a standard KO time and a semi pro game?

Sky Sports is not the root of all evil, you're a football fan do you want to see a return to the days of Gerald Sinstatd and Brian Moore with coverage limited to a highlights programme and the odd live game?'"



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Quote: Uncle Rico ""as would most others" or "personally be a lot happier and I suspect some others would be too"....Make your mind up.'"


The first part referred to most other sports, not most other rugby league fans.

Quote: Uncle Rico "Sky Sports is not the root of all evil, you're a football fan do you want to see a return to the days of Gerald Sinstatd and Brian Moore with coverage limited to a highlights programme and the odd live game?'"
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No, I want it to cost less than £45 to get into a match. It's funny how in both football and rugby league, admission prices are considerably higher now than they were before clubs main source of revenue was TV money. Really you'd think that wouldn't be the case, but it definitely is.

As for watching matches in pubs, unless you live in an RL town then good luck finding one that will show our games because in my experience it isn't easy.

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Quote: Dropkick Murphy "The first part referred to most other sports, not most other rugby league fans.

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No, I want it to cost less than £45 to get into a match. It's funny how in both football and rugby league, admission prices are considerably higher now than they were before clubs main source of revenue was TV money. Really you'd think that wouldn't be the case, but it definitely is.

As for watching matches in pubs, unless you live in an RL town then good luck finding one that will show our games because in my experience it isn't easy.'"
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Fair enough about the opinion bit "my bad" as young folk may say

The increase in ticket prices for RL and football isn't directly Sky Sports fault surely? Yes it has gone up considerably as players demand 'their cut' and in football's case their exposure becomes global. I would have thought that ticket prices generally reflect supply and demand hence the need to promote less popular events through promo offers. You can get offers even at United and perhaps Liverpool for league cup games against lower league opposition on a Tuesday If this trend continues and punters stay at home and Sky support the whole of the game's cost, then we might find ticket prices dropping as the spectacle tends to work better with a supporting cast?

I'm sure you'll be worrying about 'old' Rico tomorrow but I will find a pub with it on, or offer to drink enough for the landlord to sort his remote out in our favour

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Definitely isn't easy to watch a game in a pub in a non RL area.

In London I've been asked some random questions either by bar staff when asking or random people when watching or some strange statements.

"Is this the Heineken Cup?"
"Is this the Aviva Premiership?"
"Oh they showing 2nd division now I don't know these 2 teams"
"I thought rugby league was domestic and union was international, didn't know they were 2 different sports?"
"This is the council estate rugby"
"This is the rugby for guys not good enough to make union teams"
"Have they had men sent off?"
"If only England nion] could play this fast" not realising it's 2 different codes.
"I prefer union it's not stop start, these league lot are not as fit"
"There are more tries in league because you can't tackle properly"
"It can't be league if you're playing a French team no one plays it outside the north"
"I wish football had a commentator like this guy [stevo]"
"This is the good rugby [football fans]"
"Why don't they push in the scrum?"

Love living down here :-/

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You don't have to go as far as London to hear things like that. I put our match on one of the tellies at work a few weeks ago and a lad who lives walking distance from Salford's ground asked, "Are Sale Sharks in this league?" I was also asked by someone who wanted to change the channel, "Are you REALLY watching this?" because he couldn't believe anyone actually was.

Half the grounds in Super League are within about 25 miles of here!

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Quote: Wire Yed "Definitely isn't easy to watch a game in a pub in a non RL area.

In London I've been asked some random questions either by bar staff when asking or random people when watching or some strange statements.

"Is this the Heineken Cup?"
"Is this the Aviva Premiership?"
"Oh they showing 2nd division now I don't know these 2 teams"
"I thought rugby league was domestic and union was international, didn't know they were 2 different sports?"
"This is the council estate rugby"
"This is the rugby for guys not good enough to make union teams"
"Have they had men sent off?"
"If only England nion] could play this fast" not realising it's 2 different codes.
"I prefer union it's not stop start, these league lot are not as fit"
"There are more tries in league because you can't tackle properly"
"It can't be league if you're playing a French team no one plays it outside the north"
"I wish football had a commentator like this guy [stevo]"
"This is the good rugby [football fans]"
"Why don't they push in the scrum?"

Love living down here

I certainly dont envy you!

My thoughts are with you.

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Quote: Vespid_Wire "I certainly dont envy you!

My thoughts are with you.'"


In fairness there's more to life than living near rugby league teams. If the cost of living in London was more affordable in relation to the wage I'd realistically expect to earn there I'd have moved down years ago.

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Quote: Dropkick Murphy "In fairness there's more to life than living near rugby league teams. If the cost of living in London was more affordable in relation to the wage I'd realistically expect to earn there I'd have moved down years ago.'"


As you've admitted to putting Wire on the telly at work, I'm surprised you've not had a call from 'that there' London with a suitable job offer to meet your salary expectations...all the screens at the LSE go to P&B on match day

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Arf.

I work for Virgin Media, so tellies with TiVo boxes connected to them are everywhere.

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Quote: Dropkick Murphy "In fairness there's more to life than living near rugby league teams. If the cost of living in London was more affordable in relation to the wage I'd realistically expect to earn there I'd have moved down years ago.'"


I'm from London. It's no better than up here, just more expensive and more diverse.

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Quote: DallasMead "Pretty sure we're not going to sell out of our North Stand allocation, I got 2 from the club shop at about 18

A mate's just got mine from the shop and unless they've got it wrong, it's for the North Stand.

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Quote: Dropkick Murphy "You don't have to go as far as London to hear things like that. I put our match on one of the tellies at work a few weeks ago and a lad who lives walking distance from Salford's ground asked, "Are Sale Sharks in this league?" I was also asked by someone who wanted to change the channel, "Are you REALLY watching this?" because he couldn't believe anyone actually was.

Half the grounds in Super League are within about 25 miles of here!'"

A few months ago I was in the Butchers Arms, at half time the rugby had to go off because some regular insisted that nobody ever watches SL there (until that time I often did) so on went some obscure football match.

Interestingly, I was at a conference yesterday with several top directors from a FTSE 100 PLC. A colleague mentioned RL and they all scoffed and dismissed the code. They weren't all Southerers, three were South African.

We sponsor a lot of sports, all of which are alien in the council estates of Britain. Even if it made perfect commercial sense, I could never get an RL sponsorship deal signed off.

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