Disagree with the strategy of expansionism and you are a nenaderthal hey? Doesnt sound like a sophisticated argument to me, infact its almost neanderthal.

Or, perhaps the blind fear of expansion without a rational argument makes you a neanderthal?

It'll never work! Catalans make the CC Final after two seasons.

It'll never work! Catalans firmly ensconced in third and in a rich vein of form heading towards the play-offs.

Keep it to the M62 corridor, it's heartlands where we can all in each others pockets.

Have to say all 12 SL Teams with Celtic and Salford. Would love Widnes to get one but their crowds and on pitch performances arent good enough.

"Murryfield Magic Games"

Leeds vs Stains
Wire vs Wigan
Quins vs Bradford
Catalan vs Hudds
Cas vs Wakey
Celtic vs Salford
Hull vs Hull KR

All Evenly matched games IMO (With Exception to Wakey vs Cas only based on this years games)

Good except would have Cats V Bradford and Quins V Hudds

I think the success of catalans shows that franchise will work

Teams will build for the future knowing that they have at least three years of super league money behind them!

I had Cats vs Bradford, but for some reasn changed it...

Would agree with changing them to that...

What about the teams who aren't in, and have x years without any chance of getting in no matter what they achieve?

You miss my point. Expansionism is to develop the profile and support level of the sport and cannot be based solely on the performance of one side. Loads of arguments why for against the current expansionist strategy, but my point was why would you be an neanderthal for thinking that a London side still with mickey poor attendances after 25 years of existence is an overwhelming success which should be replicated.

It hasn't been 25 years of consistancy though has it? That club has moved a few times.

What a great thread, congrats Mr*77 for stimulating such debate. Very rare we get a 7 pager on here and it's not revolving around Danny being a buffoon.

I think whatever Paul Youane thinks, that's my rules nowadays and I'm sticking to it. (Sorry WOTT, this guy is the real deal, capeesh.)

In all seriousness, it's real tough to call, you can see merits in all applications to be fair, I think even Leigh with the new facility can feel a tad hard done too if they don't get in.

Going back a few pages, i'd go with what behind the stick says, gut feeling says that the 12 that are in are in, so to speak.

Leaving just two slots, I'll plump for Salford & Widnes, but I do sincerely hope that i'm wrong and Celtic Crusaders get in. I think as fans, certainly our fans, we've always been very good at grasping these new concepts, taking many fans to Catalans, Millenium Magic, even cup finals that we aren't involved in are littered with Warrington fans, I think it's be nice to have another different fixture on the klist, weekend in Wales, taking in the rugby, something for the other half to do etc. It's be nice.

The way this has all been handled is just wrong. Some current SL clubs are now in the situation where they are unsure about whether or not they'll get a 'franchise', while other NL clubs might get one despite their performances on the field (which surely should be what it's all about?) not meriting a top flight spot.

If the powers that be are determined to fast-track the Welsh club, they should have said so at the start of this season - we're increasing to 14, Celtics are in, the bottom club goes down and the top two from NL1 come up.

The no relegation scenario this season has only made things worse - Wakefield could end up in the Cup final and the top six and be booted out, Cas could come bottom and stay in, someone pages back in this thread opined that Hull KR might not be safe despite putting out a competitive side since being promoted. It's bloody ridiculous.

Such ham-fisted, farcical administration hardly shows RL in a good light. This is no way to run a sport.