looked like he had a go at pinching around both eyes to me, you don't accidentally pinch your fingers around the eyes of another player.

Maybe time for a new coaching team if we don't win the challenge cup or fail again in the playoffs. Tony Smith has had more than enough investment in the playing roster, and the team seems to be going backwards. Yes we finished second in the league, and are in the CC final, but the competition this season has been poor throughout, highlighted by Hull winning the league and getting to the CC final, they aren't a particularly great team in my opinion.

Not sure, just think with the time he has had, he has failed to take us to the next level. Still think once Wigan get a few players back from injury they will have the better team despite having a poor manager, why is that...

Maybe the whole league just gone backwards as others have said and I am expecting too much, I shouldn't expect our backline to be able to execute simple moves near the opposition line.

Ridiculous statement. Since he took over 8 years ago we've been to 4 challenge cup finals, won the LLS, appeared in 2 Grand Finals and for every year we didn't make a final we at the very least made a semi final. Put that much success up against anything any coach has ever done for us.

Some ridiculous overreactions on here tonight. Remember the team had 4 days to prepare for this game compared with 2 weeks for Saints and we only narrowly got beaten! All is not lost!

We have also had the most investment in the playing roster out of any team over the last ten years I imagine... and we don't have the major trophy to show for it, the grand final.

Wigan have won it in that time, as have Leeds and Saints. Why haven't we?

It doesn't matter what coaches in the past have done, he has had long enough in the job now, and maybe it's too long. Possibly need a fresh face if we want to get the monkey off our back.

Thought Sandow and Gidley went very quiet in the second half, also Ratchford always seems to come up with a few errors in most matches.

I imagine Salford have invested more in transfer fees.

Talk about knee jerk reaction, I can't stop laughing at this.

Anyone who expected a Wire win tonight has not been watching us for long enough. Our pack was light weight and lacked aggression. Despite Sim's huff and puff, no menace. God only knows how we will miss Ben Westwood. Cooper will be a welcome return.

The biggest problem is the 3/4 they are slow and offer little threat. These need replacing as they would not trouble a Saints, Wigan or Hull 17.

Toby King
Rhys Evans
Matt Russel (at wing)

Whilst we are at it, Wilde. Far too small.

We haven't got the team to win the SL this season I don't feel. If we win at Wembley you can forget it.

im very thankfull for what smith has done for us... we have won cup finals at wembley and ive had some of the the best night of my life there.

i think he has gone on too long though.... i wanted a change at the end of last season..... but we have given him a new contract, so here we are.

i remember him saying 'i dont coach the attacking plays, i leave that up to the players'...thats great when you have Briers, Monaghan and Hodgson.... not so great when you're saying 'ok sandow, just do what you can mate.'

im a massive pessimist by nature... but he keeps getting out coached by Cunningham and long...2 men that look like they are fresh out of the Beano.

i would swap him in a heartbeat for Darryl Powell.

In what way is it knee jerk, I have been thinking about Tony Smiths position at the club for at least 2 years... Maybe its because we were so bad for so long, but considering the investment, we don't have the big prize to show for it.

I hope you keep your sense of humour when we again fail in the playoffs.

If he was at Wigan, Leeds or Saints their fans would be questioning why we keeping failing at the final hurdle, but its ok because its just Warrington I guess.

Tony Smith has proven he can win a SL title, and win CC finals. The big blows this season are Lineham being terrible and Dodds breaking his leg.

You mean like Saints have been saying about Cunningham all year or the goons wanting Wane out, so we are in the CC final and for me we will be in the 4 come the end of the 8's but this obviously not good enough for you, so who do you want to replace him with, I stand by my statement.

The CC final albeit great, was reached by beating Oldham, Widnes and Wakefield, so we cannot read too much into that. The GF is the big prize but I don't think this side has the strength across the park to do it.

we dont have the tactical nouse to win the GF IMO.

for me, every year this side looks more disjointed..... singing brilliant players on massive wages will almost certainly win you alot of games and put you right up there.... it wont deliver the big prize though.

im really hoping we win the challenge cup, as i think we will fold in the big games leading up to the GF... like we did tonight.