Obviously, Ratch must be a good apple with a good shelf life but ,as you say, stand off isn't working for him.

Been massive Steph fan, but not just last night but all season the attack stops when it comes to him, he’s just lost it all of a sudden, it happens, hate to say it but bad signing for me.

He should be playing fullback, a safe pair of hands, not at halfback. The young guys need someone to guide them, they are exciting and fast but they have no leader.

All you need is a dozen of the Wire faithful in the dressing room telling the players how it is, no coach will give you that team talk.

Salford fan here in peace.

The reason we are scoring points is the half backs (Sneyd and Croft) are rarely caught in possession.

Ratchford on the other hand - when played in the middle - @6 or @13 - is just the opposite.

Widdop is the man badly missed or a young linking half then Wire will flow better.

Even if Wires flop v Toulouse surely they will still be safe as Points difference far better and cannot see where TO will pick up further wins.

It's a big 4 pointer, any which way but don't lose.

So what do we do....sign another fullback...

The whole team needs a leader.

Agree with the leadership thing. When Wigan scored their first last night, Holmes (who missed the tackle on French) who had chased down in the corner got up head in hands and looked at the fans, almost to sense the reaction.

A good leader would have got him under the wing and had a chat with him, instead he was left to shake his head at himself and to dwell on it.

Agree too, there's no one at all for anyone to look up to.

We won't lose to Toulouse..what I saw of them Thursday and as bad as we are i.ll take us by double figures regardless of how the fans support us..

I'm expecting a 42-43 result based on both sides staying power and defence, but I'm unsure as to who.

At least that sounds like a decent game. Far better than 4-0 with two goals and no tries.

Unless of course you mean 21 penalty goals each with a winning drop goal? The poor guy who brings on the kicking tee!