Smith has got to stay. He can only be judged when he has his full team out.

Chris Hill and Stefan Ratchford are not going to stop us conceding 38 points against Wigan.

There was a moment last night, may have been wigans 3rd try.. camera panned to the players under the posts. No one was saying anything... they were all just looking around in different directions avoiding eye contact with each other... A beaten team within the first 20 minutes. No fight, no heart, none of them bothered.

Stefan Ratchford has said that at least 13 players have injuries

Were they all playing last night?

yeah, we played that team again last night, look at the two seperate directions the two teams have gone since the grand final.

interesting that the OP thinks its a knee jerk reaction to want a change, that has been discussed for along time.

It's more a knee jerk reaction to harp on about trophies won 5 years ago and give it 'IN SMITH WE TRUST'.

its a line that's been trotted out for 4/5 season now by the blind faith Smith fan club. I have lost all trust in him.

Get a grip kids!

Wait until your a year down the line from winning the Treble, followed by the worst season for 20+ years and then start the new campaign with exactly the same culminating with your heaviest ever Super League defeat to your in form near country bumpkin neighbours and STILL no sign of your clueless head coach being replaced.

You lot don't know you've ever been born!

As soon as I saw the team and in particular the bench I had a fair idea what was coming. The Wigan debutants on the wing, our lad at scrum half, only 2 front line props, a bench that would be considered lightweight under any circumstances. And I don't know what the question is but the answer is not Matty Blythe.
Throw in a lack of confidence and last night was entirely predictable. I'm not concerned that we will be involved in a relegation dog fight, but our best bet for silverware this year is the Challenge Cup, too much ground lost too early for anything else.
On a positive note, I think Lineham is a different player this season (in a good way).

The knives have been out for Smith for a while now, hence the '2017 and Tony Smith' thread that has been ongoing before a ball had even been kicked in 2017.

Look, we've got some really big frailties, ones that have been evident for a while now and haven't been addressed. Can I honestly see us getting out of this current slump? Based on our Brisbane performance, I'd say yes we've certainly got it in us. However, based on our first four Super League games, I'm not so sure. There aren't a lot of positives to take at the moment, are there?

Will we improve when we've got Hill and Ratchford back? Will we look better with Toby King and Penny on the right rather than Russell and Evans? I'd say yes to both, but we need to buck up and quick otherwise our season could be over before it's really begun.

Smith won't get sacked, I feel he's fire proof in Simon Moran's eyes. The only way he'll go is if he resigned, but that's just my opinion.

Like him or loathe him, he deserves respect for what he's done for the club and for what he's achieved, even though he's come up short in us reaching our ultimate goal. I'm willing to give him a bit more time to turn things round and if he can't then something obviously has to give.

Regardless of what the future holds, I think the bloke deserves a bit more respect than being called a cretin, a chancer and a bluff merchant amongst others that he's been called on here since last nights gane.

I don't think 8 years of failing to win the grand final and now losing patience and confidence in smiths ability to deliver it given the team and the recent performances we are no closer to winning it this year than we were when he took over, he inherited a great core of players who with a few additions looked very good and if we had won a gf who knows could have been the catalyst to a period of winning grand finals and being able to attract better players however that did not happen and we are now left with what we have

how anybody can defend the team and smith after last nights performance is beyond belief and to imply those unhappy with smith are over reacting is farcical harping back to winning a cc a few years back now lets ignore that at every opportunity to win the grand final we have lost

I think we have far more important issues!!!


I should be top of the Prediction Competition now - and we see NOTHING - Keep Smith - Sack Uncle Rico !!!!!

Rico out, Rico out, Rico out !!!







Only joking of course!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm sure he'd look positively better still if he actually got a pass from time to time-"!

Even a tub of butter has its sell by date.I'm just sick + tired to my back teeth of the drivel he comes out with after every defeat.He'd get more respect off me if he just came out with it + said we was e or at least showed some passion as Shaun Wane would have done with a hammering like that.Thanx for all you've done Tony but time for change as this team is devoid of ideas + now team spirit as quite clear for all to see last night.

I can imagine it's horrendous.. Multiple grand final wins and a treble winning season.. Followed by an indifferent season then two wins out of 4 the season after ...
Hope you're ok Hun ..