Doesn't really amaze me. He was always likely to move into the centre in due course. If, and it's a big if, he stays fit, then he is first choice centre for me, given Ratchford has been given 6. Hope he stays healthy and gets the chance to show his skills on a long term basis.

That's how many games he'll play.

I'll get me coat.

Not sure why they have given Westwood the no. 13 shirt, with Westerman signed it's pretty clear he (Westerman) will play 13

If we are to make top 4 this year, this season has to be a big year for a number of players:

Sandow: will have to be the best (or close to it) half in the league - his settling in period will hopefully prove invaluable.

Hill / Dodds / Sims / Westwood: Will all have to have as healthy a year as possible.

R. Evans: This is the position he wanted, this is his shot to make it as a centre at Warrington. A poor season, or another injury hit one, could spell the end...?

B. Evans: As above, needs a good run without injuries and to make that 5th prop spot his own - otherwise King / Philbin may take it from him.

Atkins: is our number one centre now I guess. The average (at best) form of the past two years has to be a thing of the past.

I still think we are two very good players short of a championship challenging side.

Couldn't agree more,not lived upto the hype just hope he isn't another Mickey Learmouth

Think it's been a shock for him the step up in physicality and quickness of thinking and general play

Hope he comes good but he needs to realize it's a team game and gets rid of the slapped sulky side when things don't go his way

Over looking one factor, this strikes me as a seriously underwhelming squad, that shouts out mid-table at best. That factor is the opposition: the drop in standards across the league since 2011-2 means I think we've a decent shot at top 4 even with the dubious quality in a number of positions on show. However, unless we pull another top draw prop out of the bag, and something flash in the three quarters, there's little chance of a final I fear.

So. There we have it. Our squad for next year. It's thinner than Kate Moss on the 0-7 diet.

Forgive for not letting off fireworks, but I'm not exactly getting overly enthused. Yes, we've got Hill, and to a certain extent, Clark and Sandow, who are quality, but yet to see it consistently in a Wire jumper. Incoming, we've got a v. old Aussie, an Aussie prop, a couple of Hull cast offs. The rest, shows some potential/horrific injury records/okish.

Just over 2 years ago, we were in a grand final, and a score away from another Wembley final, with (great) players that were on their last legs .
It all seems a long time ago.

I'm not a pessimist, just a realist.
I'm not hopeful, but, from 1-30, please prove me wrong.

Isn't he 17?

Given the numerous pages regarding Ben Harrison and his "deregistration" I see he's got a squad number still.

No point deregistering him unles you've got someone to deregister him for.

lefy golblatt wrote "I'm not a pessimist"!!

A pessimist has "A tendency to stress the negative or unfavorable or to take the gloomiest possible view".
I think lefty you could be classed as a pessimist.

Look at yourself man. Read some of your posts. Cheer up! It may never happen.

It does look pretty thin, when you see it like that, reasonable first 13 then it drops off a bit.

Plus from this,it was doing my bleeding head in trying to work out who number 11 was for us last year.

Considering the money we appear to have spent, that looks like a very ordinary squad and one where Penny has once again dropped down the pecking order. Sorry, but it doesn't whet my appetite. I think I'll avoid the HJ until results prove me wrong.

That's what playing zero games will do...

Grix was 11, wasn't he?

yes he was, i had to look it up,