King was at his peak under performing, Asotasi is in his twilight years playing in the front row with back row drive.
If he comes good I'll eat my words but so far, a waste of cap/quota space.

This, agreed I thought Thursday was his best game so far for us. The whole team will improve as they get used to their combinations.

All this stuff about settling in and a comparison with King although worthy of some merit is riddled with holes. Asotasi as I understand it was brought in as a leader type figure and also as we needed a top quality prop. So far I have seen neither qualities from him.

King had to get used to a more complex role in the backs wheras Roy whilst he is learning the 'moves' all he has to do is carry the ball up with some vigor and perform his duties in defence.

From the early evidence he does not appear to be an 'enforcer', a ball handling forward or a leader.

I will qualify my doubts by acknowledging that he has played at the top level and hence is no mug but my jury is out

Asotasi was the only forward to stand back and not get involved in both of Westwood's dust-ups in the 1st half. Everyone else ran in and stood up for their team mate & Captain. He just stood and took no interest.

Needs some fire in his belly, and to show a bit more desire.

I hope he comes good because I don't like having a pop at any player (and that includes Myler, who some may think I have a pathological hatred of) and we really do need him to perform, so fingers-crossed.

My feelings are that historically the best-value from overseas players often comes from those with something to prove - Vagana, Nutley, Kohe-Love, Mackey etc. all wanted to establish themselves, for various reasons, and did so. Perhaps big Roy, having played so long in the engine room of the toughest comp on the planet feels he no longer needs to, has to or wants to keep prove anything to anyone, including himself.

One final point though - HE should be honoured to pay for US not the other way round. I'd sell my saintly grey-haired mother to an arab to play 80 mins in the P&B, let alone get paid for the privilege.

It feels like the sort of signing we would have made in the Cullen and Van de Velde years rather than the Smith years

I agree with this but also the lets be honest comes in to our assessment of our own youth players.

Yes I know there are a lot of cheerleaders on here telling us the future is bright every off season: they have been doing this since the days when Maden, Mark Gleeson, Durbin and Pickersgill were all touted as future GB players.

In the past few years which genuine class players have come through our youth system? Compare that to Saints/Leeds/Wigan, are we really up there with the best for youth development?

Or if you believe that we bring through great young players just Tony Smith has it in for young players and so all our best are lost elsewhere, which genuine class players have we brought through that have made it elsewhere?

I don't mean players that have played a handful of first team games but were great in the Academy so have people on here ready to tell you they are a 'beast' or whatever, I mean players that actually did the business in SL, like guys like Riley and Paul Wood did when we brought them through.

In his day Roy Asotasi was an enforcer and the best forward in the NRL but unfortunately that was several years ago. He is now past his best. Last season at Souths he was used from the bench and from what I saw was of little impact. Easily surpassed by the Burgess boys. So don't expect too much from him

He has been a massive let down for me, does not look interested and is just going through the motions.

The king comparisons don't work as of yet... King spoke several times in his early games about how hard he was finding it settling in the country, and once his life outside the game settled he became the player we thought we'd signed.

Asotasi might be suffering the same, but theres nothing to suggest it is anything more than a player just finding his way at a new club.

Either way - from what I've seen so far there is little to be concerned about. Certainly a better start than Morley had for us for example.

I take it that the people who say he offers nothing to the team in the way of leadership, are sat with him all day and listen to the coaching he gives the younger players, i take it you actually play along side him and listen to his conversations on the pitch, and also if you had been around and involved in as many fights as he has would you be first in or sit back and leave it to the young boys to get involved in things that are not going to help the team . If you are involved in all the above then i beg for forgiveness, but if not then ????

People say we are rudderless and leaderless, off the pitch anyone can lead, we need it on the pitch.

Lazy, disinterested, low impact garbage

Take it your not keen on him Yed The thing what puzzles me is who is the scout that tells Moran/Smith that we should sign him?What's he seen that we haven't?

Same as the previous weeks then ?

I see England and Wood both played for Swinton today. It will take 5-6 matches perhaps, but if either of them runs into some form, I think Asotasi may find himself on the bench.

I brought my wife today, my wife can count on one hand the games she's ever been to.

"Who is that number 10 for our team, he looks like the kid at school who pretends to get involved but avoids getting hit"

I look at her and gave one of those smiles and nods that says "I agree but how are professionals not seeing this"

"You disagree with me" she said "He's rubbish, is he a young one from the younger Warrington team"

My wife knows the sum total of F.A. when it comes to rugby but today I loved her just that little bit more.