I cant believe how biased the commentary team are you would think Leeds were winning 50 - nil and top of the league rather than being stuffed by Wakey. Come back Phil Clarke all is almost forgiven

been saying it for ages with these fools..brilliant kick from sinfield (start of game)..wait till next monday when saints eddie starts praising roby jeez it`ll be embaressing

but it's always been the same.

Sky's commentators will ALWAYS "big up" the fashionable team, and treat the underdog/unfashionable team, with contempt.
We suffered from it for years, until Smith turned us around.

Whenever Eddie/Stevo etc praised us (when we were crap), it was through gritted teeth

its still thru gritted teeth even nowadays..next week will prove it

to be fair to Eddie and Stevo, they give us tons of credit, now......because we're successful.

If we played great rugby, but won nothing, they'd be laughing their cobblers off, at us.
Broadcasters like to ingratiate themselves with successful teams/people

That's fair enough.

I don't hear our fans giving loads of credit to teams like Saints that don't win anything?

But also the much derided Phil Clarke, was one of our bigger cheerleaders in the Cullen era. Whether that's because he was Cullen's mate or something I don't know, but when we were nowhere near winning anything, Clarke used to bang on about Warrington play the best rugby in Super League and when they are on their game only St Helens can live with them.

I thought this thread was about Brent Webb. Definately not a coward, but what an idiot at times. Can't see him playing for Leeds again after that display.

Think the majority of us on here will want him to play however! Much rather face Hardaker in the centre.

Yes, I'd love him to play, but I really think that he won't get picked again. One of several Leeds penalty machines.

Sinfield and Hall are quality. Hopefully our kick chase will test his nerve and kicking accuracy out of hand. Obviously helps having Monas guarding his wing though rather than the invisible mr fox.

For Wakey Amor looks very good, and Mariano was a handful. Other than that they just wanted it far more

It wasn't a full strength Leeds but I'm surprised by the performance. Similar to us vs Salford.
They are now almost nailed on for fifth/sixth place. Wonder if they'll close up shop in anticipation of the CC. We'll have to watch them in the final.

Brent Webb as been quality for Leeds for a good few seasons now but this could be one season to long!!!Hope he gets a shot at wembley though..

What did you make of the Rob Burrow incedent that left him out cold in commentry they had a debate about this kind of challenge or attack being banned??

I'm undecided. I like to see those hits but it's only a matter of time before someone gets knocked clean out. If it's Tomkins then fair enough*, but what if it happens to someone else? One thing they absolutely must do is be more consistent - 2 hits last night were no worse than what Puletua did. I feel a "directive" is on the way and I bet they keep it legal but put extra emphasis on the word "reckless".

*That's a joke...sort of.

If a defending player is going to try and stop an attacking player by using his shoulder then the attacking player if hit front on will strike the defender with his head. Therefore the ruling of "contact to the head" will come into force as it did with the Sam Moa and Tony Puletua tackles. So why did neither of last nights challenges not receive a Red Card from the officials, or even a whisper from the video ref as was the previous case? Neither of last nights challenges were different to the previous two as the attacking players head went forward into the defending players shoulder.

How many times has Burrow been knocked out?

Every other game he seems to get carried off seeing stars.

The Webb one was completely different because the player didn't have the ball.