Today I learnt that Rah hasn't got a bad little kick on him!

sadly i cant see monaghan's place in this squad. Frustrating because hes obviously v talented. Hope smith can work some way for us to utilise him, but he doesnt seem to be good enough at half back

i learnt today that my old feeling of 'this club has the best fans in the league' is far from true. i also learnt we only play rugby in dry weather, and finally i learnt the bottle lids are back.

I learnt today that we have no pace.

Louis A never passes to Kingy

And there is no creativity at half back

And we dont know how to break down a defence

And why play Penny if we dont use him

And most of our kicks went straight down someones throat

Its been like this for sometime

I also learnt that our 'State of the art' stadium doesn't serve peas! Disaster

I learn't today that...

On a large family photoshoot, keep none participants as far away from the action as you realistically can get away with.

Don't let kids who are in their 'Sunday best' play in the garden before their turn in front of the camera.

Ditto for eating chocolate.

Whilst you can get by with two strobes, a third makes life far easier.

And most importantly, keep a close eye on the time otherwise you suddenly realise it is far later than you thought and the game kicks off in 30 minutes and you are still an hours drive away from Warrington!

I learnt how to tie my shoelaces.

Give Penny the ball in an attacking position. Isn't the idea for the half backs, centres to create opening and then give a sensible pass to the speedy winger. It is so long since Penny was given that opportunity. Instead WE play to his weaknesses - he isnt a prop to carry the ball like Morley, his defence leaves questions (but name me a current wire who hasnt let himself down with his defence this season). I am told Brian Bevans defence wasnt great but who is bothered about that if you can score the odd 600 tries a Wire career.

Another option - massive down field kick from scrum. What a good idea...IF circumstances permit e.g. Is Penny aware kicker is going to do it, is Penny in best position to run after ball. When it was tried today it didnt feel like it was excuted well.

Thought King had his best game for Wire (especially defence) this season -like a father figure to Penny, but could he please pass to Mr Speedy!!!

I feel sorry for guys like Woody and Rah who make breaks and look to offload because generally people dont back up and then the ball goes to ground and these players look poorer than they are. Saints would love their offloads!

As a team still too many one on one silly mistakes like Westwoods needless penalty, bridge knock ons, clarkes pointless 6th tackle kicking. Just re seen tries for first time and Johnson and Hicks at fault for a couple, Rah for the last.

Great kick from Rah but why should a prop be kicking on last tackle.

Dont think Mona (Did anyone ask him if he prefered hooker role before he signed?)or Clarke - are interested? For a couple of weeks of the Lowes era, whoops Lowes error, Clarke ran like Cunningham directing operations but now not much. Kids seem to have good attitude but lacking in the full range of skills, naive etc, whereas the experienced are maybe over the top with some bad attitudes.

I am told that of the 13 matches Briers has missed over the years, Wire lost 12. Annoys us when he is there yet ultimately cant live without him...for now.

In all my years of watching Wire I have never been as non plussed about wire overall matchday performances.

Only half back at the club is Lee Briers
3 hookers in the 17
Rauhihi is just a man mountain
Matt King is now playing like Matt King and not like Don King
Grix is no Martin Gleeson
Tony Smith likes to watch the opposition warm up
I wished Castleford would sing a song for us, cos we dont have much to sing about atm.
28-6 score was harsh
Our defensive structure is MILES better

I've learnt that as fans we constantly look for the negative, boo the mistakes and ignore the improvements. Also that it doesn't matter what the team does some people will never be satisfied.

How many games have you been to where the opposition seem likely to score every time they get in our 20m? How many times have you had that feeling that we have no line defence? Five weeks ago we shipped in 60 points against London. Yesterday Cas spent repeat sets camped on our line and couldn't get through - that is an improvement.

How many times on here have people stated that they don't mind losing it's the lack of effort that annoys them - if they showed some effort and pride in the shirt the result wouldn't be so bad? Yet the team was booed off at half time with the result at 0-6 and Penny is criticised for encouraging his team mates!

I think they were tested. On a number of occasions Cas went down that side and, on at least 2 occasions, King and Penny did a great job on plugging in gaps as part of a successful scramble defence. Penny got minimal touches but it's unfair to refer to King in that context. It's not as if King got lots of ball and refused to pass to him.

I'm enjoying watching King's confidence improve and his performances accordingly. I always enjoyed Penny's enuthasism for his team mates.

i learnt today that yes "i wanna drink" but sadly the urban / bassline music is not my cup of tea and that i will not be purchasing anything by Platnum or N-Dubz in the near future

I learned that people don't understand the word

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Simon Grix is a fine back-row forward but is never a centre. I'd prefer Riley on the wing and PJ at No 3 which was the position in which he first made a reputation for himself in his Pie days. Grix can then play back row with Westwood and Harrison and leave the under-achieving Andersons out of it.

Funny you say this , I remember 2 years ago against CAS away when nearly everybody went off injured we stole the game in the last minit , Rau took charge and ripped them apart !!!