I'm sure a lot of people did. In fact, I'm sure Thaler did. But what was Drinkwater doing? Lifting his legs gave him the opportunity to do that when he was already wrapped in the tackle and going nowhere. Just dumb from Drinkwater.

It was obvious. You only need to look where Drinkwater's hand finishes lifting in relation to where Welsby's leg ends up. Welsby has previous form for this so no real surprise. I think the disciplinary made a statement by not deeming it an issue but I wish they'd go further and actually sanction players who indulge in this sort of cheating. Play acting to gain penalties is a blight on the game and needs stamping out.

Totally agree with you, it was stupid, but personally I feel that the playacting needs to be stamped out.

I said at the time it was clever from welsby, but these dark arts type things really don't help the sport IMO. The game needs cleaning up, especially around the ruck but also the little bit of gamesmanship creeping in.

The gamesmanship is now entrenched in our sport. Feigning injury, appealing for penalties every play the ball, holding ball in the scrum to get an offside decision. Boring.

While the MRP is forensically dissecting the game there is no reason why forward passes can't also be examined by the video ref then many petty ambiguities over results will be eliminated & Saints ,Wire ,Wigan & Leeds fans can learn to love each other. Peace man !

Quote: ninearches "While the MRP is forensically dissecting the game there is no reason why forward passes can't also be examined by the video ref then many petty ambiguities over results will be eliminated & Saints ,Wire ,Wigan & Leeds fans can learn to love each other. Peace man !'" Wasn't their talk of a forward pass detector in the ball? https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/27/spor ... index.html With today's digital image processing power it is perfectly possible to detect, after the event, if the ball went forward with reference to the player at the point of passing.

Quote: ninearches "While the MRP is forensically dissecting the game there is no reason why forward passes can't also be examined by the video ref then many petty ambiguities over results will be eliminated & Saints ,Wire ,Wigan & Leeds fans can learn to love each other. Peace man !'" Wasn't their talk of a forward pass detector in the ball? https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/27/spor ... index.html With today's digital image processing power it is perfectly possible to detect, after the event, if the ball went forward with reference to the player at the point of passing.

Yes the forward velocity of the player just at the point of passing can be compared with the forward velocity of the ball just following release. If the latter is greater than the former it's a forward pass.

Example. Player running at 25km/h forward velocity passes ball, ball is measured to have 25km/h forward velocity then it's a flat pass. > 25km/h it's a forward pass. No reference to the pitch, just the velocity of the player and ball is compared.

How much ball tampering would be needed at the St Helens 49ers

I think that's an attempt to baffle cloth cap brains with utter b/s.

I suspect the device would overload and the ball would explode!

I think we know why it can't be achieved from that statement. You would need a video ref with the brain power of Einstein at every game & there just aren't enough Thalers to go round.

Well that's simplified that then.

Now he is retired from the game I’m sure they would get Tom Brady in as a technical advisor.

To be fair they could teach 'old Tom' a thing or two