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| Quote: sally cinnamon "I think some people have short memories on Hock. He was a good player who carried a weak Wigan team for a while, I remember thinking that if he could clean up the indiscipline in his game he wasn't far off being able to be a Farrell-like figure. If he had signed for us a couple of years ago I would have said it was second only to Morley as a top signing.
He does have a big task now though. It has made it harder for him that Wigan have become a top side without him, its like if Iestyn Harris had come back from union and gone to Leeds. He will find it hard to fit back into the Wigan unit that used to think of him as a main player but has got used to playing without him, so his status will be different. We've been hearing all this stuff about how he's been training the house down and determined to make up for lost time which I'm sure he is, but he won't get too much time, and there will be lots of pressure on him because he's coming back from a ban, he will always be seen as a tainted character now.
I will reserve judgement and wouldn't write him off because there's no doubt he was well ahead of most British forwards, of his generation of young players that came through about 8/9 years ago I thought he was the best in the country.
BUT the game has a habit of leaving players behind who have had time out - look at all the guys who went and did a stint in union and came back, Harris, Henry Paul, Chev Walker and so on, they never had the same impact second time around.'"
I'd agree 100% with that. I would imagine that when Hock comes back that Wigan will give him a fairly low paid contract un til the end of the season, with the option of a far better long term contract if he reaches the heights he was at prior to his ban.
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51898_1347989911.png "Come, follow me, and I will show you how to fish for people!" Matthew 4:19
Things I learned on 11/08/12
Gareth Hock can't pass
Gareth Hock can't run
Gareth Hock can't fight
[url=http://www.dailystar.co.uk/rugby/view/256856/Gareth-Hock-relives-drugs-ban-hell/:22njixh9]I'm assured he can snort a line of coke the size of a Mecca dauber though.[/url:22njixh9]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51898.png |
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| is Hock still subject to drug tests during his ban?
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52674_1285275725.jpg [size=50:2fqgwsdo]"The mid-to-late 1980s and early-to-mid-1990s is the most successful period for the club to date, however, even without this glorious trophy laden period, Wigan would still have won more trophies than any other professional British rugby league club due to their successes throughout the club's history."[/size:2fqgwsdo]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_52674.jpg |
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| Rumour has it that he has bulked up considerably and may well play prop. Who knows if that is what Wigan (who have had no contact with him what so ever – honest) want him to do. We are so strong in the 2nd row, we wouldn’t miss him, but I would be wary of him moving to another club, because I do think that he will still be one of if not the best forwards around.
We are in a win-win situation. IF he’s good on return and can make the side, then great, if not I still think other clubs outside of the top 6 would have him in their side.
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| Ryan Hudson has done OK since his return, so I suppose it is possible.
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
Saints have five in a row:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3076.jpg |
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| Quote: jdrocket "is Hock still subject to drug tests during his ban?'"
Yes
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51898_1347989911.png "Come, follow me, and I will show you how to fish for people!" Matthew 4:19
Things I learned on 11/08/12
Gareth Hock can't pass
Gareth Hock can't run
Gareth Hock can't fight
[url=http://www.dailystar.co.uk/rugby/view/256856/Gareth-Hock-relives-drugs-ban-hell/:22njixh9]I'm assured he can snort a line of coke the size of a Mecca dauber though.[/url:22njixh9]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51898.png |
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Yes'"
i wasn't having a dig. I was just wondering whether the RFL had a right to.
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23997_1287161421.jpg [quote="Mark"]Great game of rugby league. Fantastic atmosphere, Wigan were breathtaking and dominant in all areas for the first 25 minutes, coupled with us making alot of dumb mistakes,then fortunately they brought McIlorum on which helped us back into the game. I thought some of the tries we scored to get us within two we're out of this world stuff. Towards the end we had to force it a little and we had a few things go wrong, i.e Monas kick on the first for King and Solomona going off who was causing havoc. Wigan were clinical in their eventual execution of us. Proud of Wire today and gave us a little glimpse to the future. Silverwood was awful as per, but I expect no less. Tomkins is a world class player and by far the best english player in SL. Wigan are a champion side and would be a worthy winner of taking our title as challenge cup. Good luck over the next month and a bit.[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23997.jpg |
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| Quote: jdrocket "i wasn't having a dig. I was just wondering whether the RFL had a right to.'" He's been getting tested regular by us not the rfl
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51898_1347989911.png "Come, follow me, and I will show you how to fish for people!" Matthew 4:19
Things I learned on 11/08/12
Gareth Hock can't pass
Gareth Hock can't run
Gareth Hock can't fight
[url=http://www.dailystar.co.uk/rugby/view/256856/Gareth-Hock-relives-drugs-ban-hell/:22njixh9]I'm assured he can snort a line of coke the size of a Mecca dauber though.[/url:22njixh9]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51898.png |
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| Quote: king warrior "He's been getting tested regular by us not the rfl'"
ooooooooooooh... that is a little bit unusual.
So if he was found to have something suspect in his system, there is no obligation for Wigan to take any action?
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23997_1287161421.jpg [quote="Mark"]Great game of rugby league. Fantastic atmosphere, Wigan were breathtaking and dominant in all areas for the first 25 minutes, coupled with us making alot of dumb mistakes,then fortunately they brought McIlorum on which helped us back into the game. I thought some of the tries we scored to get us within two we're out of this world stuff. Towards the end we had to force it a little and we had a few things go wrong, i.e Monas kick on the first for King and Solomona going off who was causing havoc. Wigan were clinical in their eventual execution of us. Proud of Wire today and gave us a little glimpse to the future. Silverwood was awful as per, but I expect no less. Tomkins is a world class player and by far the best english player in SL. Wigan are a champion side and would be a worthy winner of taking our title as challenge cup. Good luck over the next month and a bit.[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23997.jpg |
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| Quote: jdrocket "ooooooooooooh... that is a little bit unusual.
So if he was found to have something suspect in his system, there is no obligation for Wigan to take any action?'" From what i understand he's been 'offered' a 5 year deal with us and part of it is to get tested regular and if he 'breaks' his contract the deal is off now if it did come up positive i dont know what wigan would do regarding the rfl
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| Quote: king warrior "He's been getting tested regular by us not the rfl'"
Let's be honest, he's never really seemed to have left wigan during this ban has he?
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51898_1347989911.png "Come, follow me, and I will show you how to fish for people!" Matthew 4:19
Things I learned on 11/08/12
Gareth Hock can't pass
Gareth Hock can't run
Gareth Hock can't fight
[url=http://www.dailystar.co.uk/rugby/view/256856/Gareth-Hock-relives-drugs-ban-hell/:22njixh9]I'm assured he can snort a line of coke the size of a Mecca dauber though.[/url:22njixh9]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51898.png |
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| Quote: king warrior "From what i understand he's been 'offered' a 5 year deal with us and part of it is to get tested regular and if he 'breaks' his contract the deal is off now if it did come up positive i dont know what wigan would do regarding the rfl'"
you'd hope they'd report it to them?
In a morbid sort of way i am looking forward to him returning. It has been a while, see how he has taken the playing gap.
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23997_1287161421.jpg [quote="Mark"]Great game of rugby league. Fantastic atmosphere, Wigan were breathtaking and dominant in all areas for the first 25 minutes, coupled with us making alot of dumb mistakes,then fortunately they brought McIlorum on which helped us back into the game. I thought some of the tries we scored to get us within two we're out of this world stuff. Towards the end we had to force it a little and we had a few things go wrong, i.e Monas kick on the first for King and Solomona going off who was causing havoc. Wigan were clinical in their eventual execution of us. Proud of Wire today and gave us a little glimpse to the future. Silverwood was awful as per, but I expect no less. Tomkins is a world class player and by far the best english player in SL. Wigan are a champion side and would be a worthy winner of taking our title as challenge cup. Good luck over the next month and a bit.[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23997.jpg |
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| Quote: Catpiss #2 "Let's be honest, he's never really seemed to have left wigan during this ban has he?'" No he cant train with us or anything like that but i'm sure he's been going to schools giving talks about drugs and stuff not 100% on that though
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23997_1287161421.jpg [quote="Mark"]Great game of rugby league. Fantastic atmosphere, Wigan were breathtaking and dominant in all areas for the first 25 minutes, coupled with us making alot of dumb mistakes,then fortunately they brought McIlorum on which helped us back into the game. I thought some of the tries we scored to get us within two we're out of this world stuff. Towards the end we had to force it a little and we had a few things go wrong, i.e Monas kick on the first for King and Solomona going off who was causing havoc. Wigan were clinical in their eventual execution of us. Proud of Wire today and gave us a little glimpse to the future. Silverwood was awful as per, but I expect no less. Tomkins is a world class player and by far the best english player in SL. Wigan are a champion side and would be a worthy winner of taking our title as challenge cup. Good luck over the next month and a bit.[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23997.jpg |
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| Quote: jdrocket "you'd hope they'd report it to them?
In a morbid sort of way i am looking forward to him returning. It has been a while, see how he has taken the playing gap.'" Yeah if they did find anything i hoped they would he was stupid for doing in the first place if you look at it from his side he's not the brightest bulb so has nothing to fall back on after rugby so this lay off hit him hard
He's put alot of bulk on over the last year and half he's been training 4-5 times a week with an ex sas guy lots of fitness and been told he will be coming back has a prop sizewise he's not far off morley
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1883.jpg Didn't William Webb Ellis pick up the ball and run, someone should really tell Rugby Union.
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| I can't see prop being a good step for Hock, defence was never one of his key attributes. He came a cross as a 'lazy arm' defender, who, if put in the middle of the pitch would be a prime target for the Robys of this world.
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23997_1287161421.jpg [quote="Mark"]Great game of rugby league. Fantastic atmosphere, Wigan were breathtaking and dominant in all areas for the first 25 minutes, coupled with us making alot of dumb mistakes,then fortunately they brought McIlorum on which helped us back into the game. I thought some of the tries we scored to get us within two we're out of this world stuff. Towards the end we had to force it a little and we had a few things go wrong, i.e Monas kick on the first for King and Solomona going off who was causing havoc. Wigan were clinical in their eventual execution of us. Proud of Wire today and gave us a little glimpse to the future. Silverwood was awful as per, but I expect no less. Tomkins is a world class player and by far the best english player in SL. Wigan are a champion side and would be a worthy winner of taking our title as challenge cup. Good luck over the next month and a bit.[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23997.jpg |
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| Quote: getdownmonkeyman "I can't see prop being a good step for Hock, defence was never one of his key attributes. He came a cross as a 'lazy arm' defender, who, if put in the middle of the pitch would be a prime target for the Robys of this world.'" Well you could look at it from the attacking side his offloads (most of the time) are very good you dont find many props with hands like his in the game
I'm sure madge will work his defence out he did it with the rest of the squad
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