So the stats show that tomkins has the weaker defence? Smith is a disgrace !

Bit worried about this one though21.55%

Sam Tomkins
Tackles Made 13.11%

Not sure we can handle covering for a guy who makes around 10 tackles a match and misses 2 of them, not exactly pulling his weight.

Once again this is deteriorating into yet another Wire v Wigan spat. Odemwingie and Rogues Gallery have both promised to behave on the Wigan Board (as have quite a few Wire fans including myself), so they have to come on our Board to slag us off.

If the shoe was on the other foot and the Wire fans went on the Wigan board proclaiming that Tomkins is useless and shouldn't be in the England team, the Wire fans would get banned before they'd even hit the submit button.

The thing is though neither of us are out of order, we are both trying to debate it with stats and opinions, no insults appart from a few I have had from wire fans but I don't mind if they want to do that.

My opinion is that Tomkins is a better player than Myler and I have stats and various methods to prove this armoured with the fact that Myler has not player for months and therefore should not be in the squad.

Just for the record, the only bad thing I ever said on here was that the wire fans causing trouble were scum, other than that I have never gone over the line.

I see what you're trying to do there. I'll give you 2/10 for attempted effort.

That would explain his missed tackle count, think about it; if you are playing Salford, who would direct all your traffic at?

It is all a moot point anyway, Ratchford is better than them all.

Useless, not fit to play for England, terrible attacking/defensive stats..............it all works out the same in the end. You don't want him to play for England because he is now a Warrington player. You don't want him to play for England because the England coach is the Warrington coach. You don't want him to play for England because he has replaced a Wiganer in the team.

That's what it comes down to at the end of the day. Plus I see you've not denied the part about bannings on your board.

IMO, I couldn't care less if Smith picks Myler or Tomkins or McGuire or Eastmond. All I want is whoever gets picked to work together as a team and push England to beating those ***** from down under.

All this whining and complaining about players being picked over others is just pathetic. If you're a proper England fan, you would get behind the team selection no matter what.

Do you hear me whining about Carvell being left out of the squad? I'm not happy about it, but it's Smith who picks the team and I've got confidence that he's picked the right players for the right game.

I'm not going to go and and moan and start a stupid thread saying that Carvell should have been picked, that Smith is out of his depth and that I'm never supporting England ever again.

Sorry I really couldn't help myself. I hope I am proved wrong and look forward to the internationals, although it would be a bit preferable to have a coach not related to a team, because we are just ending up with the referee problem, if he does pick his players he loses, if he doesn't he loses. Not a nice place to be in. Still don't think Mylers defence is good enough though

If this is sarcasm...
Personally I rate Ratchford as much as I do Tomkins and Eastmond. Very good player for his age, could develop into something. I hope Salford keep him.