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| I hope to GOD KP reads this post..
Kevin come back to the VIKINGS we all loved you!!
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| one thing is for sure i very much doubt KP will be playing at wembley,
his confidence seems to be at rock bottom atm.
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| All I can say is come on Kev, I believe the vast majority of wire fans want you to make it and think you can.
Getting stick off away supporters and a percentage of your own "supporters" I'm afraid comes with the job. In fact when I was younger and more of a big mouth, I used to give the likes of Offiah a hard time.
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| People will make out that it wa typical Penny, when actually it wasn't. He doesn't usually make those kind of mistakes, some of them last night were ridiculous. I think it is pretty clear that he was trying too hard, and hopefully now he has had his return game at the HJ he will calm down.
To counter some of this negativity, can I just point out a couple of the good things he did.
His defence was very solid, much better than previous matches with us.
He also got the ball down three times, almost a fourth. I don't know whether the ref was right with the forward pass or offside, however on another night with a different ref, the lad would have had another hat-trick, yet folk on the terraces would still be booing him.
His take for his second disallowed try was world class. Not bad for a bloke who can't catch.
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| Quote Laffy="Laffy"KEV PENNY 4 BRITAIN!'"
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| i just think the people who boo him when he makes a mess of things then cheer and appluad him when he scores are just morons. the lad needs the support of the crowd when he makes the mistake not morons shouting at him
Ts needs to get him to understand its team game and to clam down and chanel all that energy into doing what he does best.
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| Quote Ray Chicken="Ray Chicken"one thing is for sure i very much doubt KP will be playing at wembley,
his confidence seems to be at rock bottom atm.'"
let's hope to god he doesn't read this thread then 
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| Most of the crap I expected to read on here has appeared, fortunately punctuated with some sensible analysis from the sensible folk.
Penny was quite clearly eager to impress last night, and certainly in the first half hour he was a little too eager, causing him to make a couple of howlers. Sadly, this was accentuated by a vast section of the crowd getting on his back and acting like complete nice people.
For much of that half hour, our established players didn't help him a great deal. Giving the ball to a winger on the last tackle on your own thirty puts a huge amount of pressure on him to produce something special and gain metres that would have more easily been acquired by a simple punt downfield for him to chase after. Briers eventually stepped up to the mark and largely helped him out well in the second half.
Penny won't and shouldn't play at Wembley, he needs time to get his confidence back and I echo JWP's sentiments that if he can go to Widnes and become a star, then that's a better outcome than having to put up with some of the idiots who watch Warrington.
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| I find this thread utterly depressing.
We have so many people banging on about overpaid Aussies only here for the money and we get a local kid with bags of enthusiasm and lots of people want him out.
Most of the anti Penny quotes I read are from kids or from people who have never played the game. Yes his defence is not his strong point, but he offers a threat that few wingers do.
With a decent centre he would come on leaps and bounds.
What I do know is that he enjoyed his rugby at Widnes, they passed to him! Unbelievable! They kicked for him to chase, and he scored a try a game.
I also know he will be a Warrington player next season.
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| Wirral Wire makes an interesting point about kicking for KP to chase.
In the first half we had a scrum in our own 20m, and the Wakefield line was up as one, with nobody behind.
The crowd in the East stand were praying for a kick from Briers for Penny to chase, but it never came.
The kick that he did catch was a phenomenal take and score, which I am sure wasn't offside.
In the second half we commented on his defending stint, which has clearly improved.
As I said in my previous comments, we are unlikely to make the top 8, so give him a run for the last 2 league games, with a proper centre, and restore his confidence.
We do not seem to know, or want to know how to use his speed to best effect.
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| Quote Les Boyd Is God="Les Boyd Is God"1st half takes out a high kick..takes a quick tap to himself and drops it ...kids stuff in fact kids dont do things like that....i hope im wrong but he wont go any better'"
Thats nothing compared to Ben Black cos when Widnes played Halifax a few weeks ago Black took a quick tap penalty 20 metres from the Widnes line and with no one near him he dropped the ball.
Every player makes mistakes so why have ago at them.
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| we need too give kp a break. give him chance, he scored 11 tries in 11 games for widnes. He ain't no slouch... Give him a chance
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