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| Quote: Steve51 "I understand Dominic Cummings has some time on his hands.'"
Cummings' "eyesight" was a damn sight better at Castle Barnard, than our current CEO's will ever be
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| Quote: morrisseyisawire "Charm? I'm not sure charm was ever part of the appeal. He always had the demeanour of a 1981 high school PE teacher.'"
Didn't you write a song about him
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| Quote: morrisseyisawire "Charm? I'm not sure charm was ever part of the appeal. He always had the demeanour of a 1981 high school PE teacher.'"
I lived in Yorkshire for 12 years, and you come across guys like Daryl Powell all the time. If you call in a plumber or take your car for a service you can bet the guy's personality will be a carbon copy of Powell. Humourless, charmless, giving the impression they would rather be doing anything than their actual job, no time for niceties, just want make sure they get paid and be done.
But now I'm in London, I actually prefer that type of bloke to the equivalent down here, ie the Eddie Hearn style cheekie chappie trying to get you in to his stupid banter whilst trying to rip you off. At least the humourless Powell types were generally honest and would do you a good job.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "Cummings would write 30,000 word blog posts about the failings of the club management, complete with his diagnoses that we needed to read the philosophy of Nietzsche and improve our data to get a more strategic approach to signings. The fan base would like what they heard, particularly as he would offer a ruthless culture to sacking the backroom staff.
The problems would come when people realised that he didn't offer much more than shaking things up and fighting people, all his appointments to the coaching staff would be nonentities chosen for their willingness to be nodding dogs to him, and his signings would reveal a willingness to spend large sums of the club's money on personal pet project players who had agents he knew.
He'd ban the Warrington Guardian from having access to the club on the grounds they were out of touch metropolitan elites and a curious number of new twitter users would appear with names like @Wolves916573671 with stories about the dark secret practices of the Cullen-Smith-Price cabal that need to be rooted out.
In the end the results would still be crap and he would fall out with everyone and quit and go back to his blog.'"
That is chillingly similar to what you could easily write about Donald Trump, except of course the bit about reading Nietzsche. It would need to be a picture book, and even then he wouldn't like his views on Christianity.
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| SP “so Briersy, Cummings has recommended we check out Nietzsche “
LB “ I’m not so sure another South Sea Islander is the answer, what do you think Hendo?”
AH “ I’m with Briersy boss, let’s face it BMM has turned out to be a lazy so and so, what will those know it alls on RLFans forums say?”
SP “ I’m not worried about those galahs, they’re still boring on about props”
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| Quote: Winslade's Offload "That is chillingly similar to what you could easily write about Donald Trump, except of course the bit about reading Nietzsche. It would need to be a picture book, and even then he wouldn't like his views on Christianity.'"
If Trump took over he would tap into a certain section of the fanbase by claiming he would jail Steve Price. "Lock Him Up! Lock Him Up!" they would chant. He would claim that now he had taken over, we were all free to use the word "Wire" again, ending the political correctness that meant we were all banned from saying it, and guarantee that he would protect the Brian Bevan statue from the woke leftists who want it to be pulled down to be replaced by a statue of a womens RL player. He would sign an executive order banning the importing of overseas players (which he referred to as Aussie LOSERS). By this point he would have a massive fan club on this site with plenty of sycophants willing to proclaim his greatness and support him to the bitter end regardless of results.
Then when the season started he would start spending the club's money at will, signing players with huge transfer fees, then sacking them and being forced to pay them off after just a few games. He would accuse the league of being corrupt, and rigged in favour of Wigan and St Helens, which would pander to his base on the terraces and keep them onside despite poor results. He would start receiving criticism from former Warrington players for the way he was conducting himself, and would hit back on twitter. "Crying Cullen is a LOSER! Never played in a Cup Final! Sad!" "Simon Grix was a WASTE! Twelve years getting paid to sit in the treatment room. I like players who don't get injured!" He would appoint rubber duckie as his press spokesman. The duck would stand up in front of the media and say straight faced that "Wire will win the lot" and that this was "the greatest Wire team in a generation" and tell us gleefully of the President's plan to pursue a "Warrington first" policy where only players born in the town would be eligible to be brought through into the first team.
Despite his best efforts to run the club's infrastructure down, there would still be enough good players (at least in his first season) to get us into the playoffs. Trump would confidently predict that St Helens would steal the result and warn Warrington fans that we had to be vigilant and Saints would be colluding with the referees. Then after we got knocked out he would complain about it in the press conference...."We had a lead, we had a lead, 12 to 8 and it was a beautiful thing, and then what do you know, in the second half the lead magically disappeared. It was such a beautiful lead and it magically disappeared. They were scoring points...they were scoring so many points and they were counting the points that were scored illegitimately. Some of the tries they counted, they were scored by dead people, everybody knows it, you all know it, they were dead people, they weren't legitimate tries." Then he would announce his campaign to challenge the result. "WE WON BY A LOT!!!" he would post, and indicate he was taking the RFL to court to get the disputed points to be thrown out.
Most of the members of this site would support his claims, posting repeatedly all over this and every other club's forum, that the referees decisions were all wrong, the game was rigged, Saints always get decisions in their way, if it wasn't for the fake refs decisions, Warrington would have won...
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| You make Trump & McManus sound like one & the same .
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "If Trump took over he would tap into a certain section of the fanbase by claiming he would jail Steve Price. "Lock Him Up! Lock Him Up!" they would chant. He would claim that now he had taken over, we were all free to use the word "Wire" again, ending the political correctness that meant we were all banned from saying it, and guarantee that he would protect the Brian Bevan statue from the woke leftists who want it to be pulled down to be replaced by a statue of a womens RL player. He would sign an executive order banning the importing of overseas players (which he referred to as Aussie LOSERS). By this point he would have a massive fan club on this site with plenty of sycophants willing to proclaim his greatness and support him to the bitter end regardless of results.
Then when the season started he would start spending the club's money at will, signing players with huge transfer fees, then sacking them and being forced to pay them off after just a few games. He would accuse the league of being corrupt, and rigged in favour of Wigan and St Helens, which would pander to his base on the terraces and keep them onside despite poor results. He would start receiving criticism from former Warrington players for the way he was conducting himself, and would hit back on twitter. "Crying Cullen is a LOSER! Never played in a Cup Final! Sad!" "Simon Grix was a WASTE! Twelve years getting paid to sit in the treatment room. I like players who don't get injured!" He would appoint rubber duckie as his press spokesman. The duck would stand up in front of the media and say straight faced that "Wire will win the lot" and that this was "the greatest Wire team in a generation" and tell us gleefully of the President's plan to pursue a "Warrington first" policy where only players born in the town would be eligible to be brought through into the first team.
Despite his best efforts to run the club's infrastructure down, there would still be enough good players (at least in his first season) to get us into the playoffs. Trump would confidently predict that St Helens would steal the result and warn Warrington fans that we had to be vigilant and Saints would be colluding with the referees. Then after we got knocked out he would complain about it in the press conference...."We had a lead, we had a lead, 12 to 8 and it was a beautiful thing, and then what do you know, in the second half the lead magically disappeared. It was such a beautiful lead and it magically disappeared. They were scoring points...they were scoring so many points and they were counting the points that were scored illegitimately. Some of the tries they counted, they were scored by dead people, everybody knows it, you all know it, they were dead people, they weren't legitimate tries." Then he would announce his campaign to challenge the result. "WE WON BY A LOT!!!" he would post, and indicate he was taking the RFL to court to get the disputed points to be thrown out.
Most of the members of this site would support his claims, posting repeatedly all over this and every other club's forum, that the referees decisions were all wrong, the game was rigged, Saints always get decisions in their way, if it wasn't for the fake refs decisions, Warrington would have won...'"
That made me chuckle.
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| My guilty confession is that I really wasn't [ithat[/i bothered when we went out of the CC - another victory would have seen us slapping on another roll of wallpaper over the gaping cracks.
Similarly, a part of me was hoping for defeat v Hull as being the only catalyst that might trigger change. What if we'd have won and gone on to win the final? Hmm, I'd have been pleased but certainly not euphoric and I'd defintely be asking Price for his lottery numbers because at that stage he'd be luck personified.
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| Maybe we're waiting until we're no longer on standby before we announce anything. Well that's the straw I'm clutching at.
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| Quote: ratticusfinch "Maybe we're waiting until we're no longer on standby before we announce anything. Well that's the straw I'm clutching at.'"
I hope that you're clutching pays off
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| It would certainly be a massive gamble if they don't sack Price. It would basically be an admittance by the club that they don't really care and that they are happy to accept mediocrity - with that sort of mentality, why should the fans care and why should they buy season tickets or support the team?
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| Disappointing to read in the rugby league express Watson is going to giants
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| I think if fans are hoping Price will be replaced this off season they are going to be disappointed. I don't think they are going to fire him. If they were we would have heard more rumours about it by now, and rumours about the replacement.
Price's contract runs till the end of 2021 season, so I think if 10 games in to next season we are something like won 4 lost 6 we might get the statement of "departed by mutual consent" with Henderson or Anderson given the job on a caretaker basis for the rest of the season to see how they get on and whether they are worth giving a contract for 2022 and beyond.
The dilemma will be if we get to mid season and are there or thereabouts in the playoffs but don't look like we are significantly better than before. The club will need to get some clarity about who will be the coach for 2022 before they start trying to make signings for 2022, but if they announce that Price's contract won't be renewed it could be disruptive at that point and send a strange signal. They could have egg on their face if we then went on to win the Grand Final.
But we could be in the situation where we are 2nd/3rd in the league mid season, extend Price for a couple more years, and then get knocked straight out of the playoffs again and finish trophyless and feel like groundhog day.
I wonder how many of our fans read that last sentence and thought, that is exactly what is going to happen.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "I think if fans are hoping Price will be replaced this off season they are going to be disappointed. I don't think they are going to fire him. If they were we would have heard more rumours about it by now, and rumours about the replacement.
Price's contract runs till the end of 2021 season, so I think if 10 games in to next season we are something like won 4 lost 6 we might get the statement of "departed by mutual consent" with Henderson or Anderson given the job on a caretaker basis for the rest of the season to see how they get on and whether they are worth giving a contract for 2022 and beyond.
The dilemma will be if we get to mid season and are there or thereabouts in the playoffs but don't look like we are significantly better than before. The club will need to get some clarity about who will be the coach for 2022 before they start trying to make signings for 2022, but if they announce that Price's contract won't be renewed it could be disruptive at that point and send a strange signal. They could have egg on their face if we then went on to win the Grand Final.
But we could be in the situation where we are 2nd/3rd in the league mid season, extend Price for a couple more years, and then get knocked straight out of the playoffs again and finish trophyless and feel like groundhog day.
I wonder how many of our fans read that last sentence and thought, that is exactly what is going to happen.
That’s unfortunately how I see it going down, I’ve mentioned this in a previous post...Price will still be here for 2021.
A bad start to next season 10/12 games in questions will be asked and a mutual release or something along those lines, then we will see an interim head coach appointed. There’s also the fact that we did a similar thing with Smith & let his contract run when questions were being asked the year before. There’s also a couple other factors as there isn’t many high quality coaches available, my ideal choice would be Wane but he’s tied in with England and Watson looks nailed on for Huddersfield... Not forgetting the pandemic as well which is a bit of external issue but no doubt will have some implications when hard decisions are being made.
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