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Quote: morrisseyisawire "If I hear again that players had their mind elsewhere, were holding back or that were subbed with one eye on next weekend I'll throw a Verucca Salt style tantrum.

If the game was marked as one we could afford to lose (we can't afford to lose any if we want to get 2nd place) then the players and staff want flogging and I'd.like first crack please.

And if there was evidence in the week that players weren't fully focussed then DROP THEM and bring in Burrell, Livett, Johnson etc.

Don't insult the fans, Cas and the competition by writing it off as collateral damage when some of us believe that winning in P&B [ialways matters[/i.'"

THIS. I’m not having that we’re smartly pick and choosing games. If that’s the case they want flogging as you say. You can’t work like that and hope to win anything. I’m keen to see what Saturday brings in many respects.

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Quote: MorePlaymakersNeeded "You're really enjoying this, aren't you. The poorest standard SL by a country mile.
If Saints don't win the GF and the Challenge Cup double, then Holbrook has been an abject failure.'"


You say that as though Holbrook isn’t the reason why we should win the treble. If we winthe treble then he’ll go down as one of the great Super League coaches. To take a club that was struggling badly to where it is now, with largely the same players, is outstanding. The impact he’s had on individual players has been remarkable, something that can’t be said of Price. The likes of Thompson, Lomax and Knowles are now up there as the best in the league in their positions when they were nowhere near before.

Meanwhile, Steve Price has been backed with expensive signings but most of them have been flops and despite the signing of Austin you’re at the same level as last season. There’s a reason why NRL clubs are after Holbrook and none are after Price. One’s a top coach the other is a poor one.

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Quote: Psychedelic Casual "No. Our team isn’t that good. I don’t know where this line of thinking has come from that we [ishould[/i be winning trophies. If Cas and Wakey have everyone fit and are in good form you could throw a blanket over Wire Hull Wigan Catalans Cas and Wakey. Wakey might be struggling but they have players that would walk into our team.'"


It isn’t that good because of Steve Price.

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Quote: AS108 "You say that as though Holbrook isn’t the reason why we should win the treble. If we winthe treble then he’ll go down as one of the great Super League coaches. To take a club that was struggling badly to where it is now, with largely the same players, is outstanding. The impact he’s had on individual players has been remarkable, something that can’t be said of Price. The likes of Thompson, Lomax and Knowles are now up there as the best in the league in their positions when they were nowhere near before.

Meanwhile, Steve Price has been backed with expensive signings but most of them have been flops and despite the signing of Austin you’re at the same level as last season. There’s a reason why NRL clubs are after Holbrook and none are after Price. One’s a top coach the other is a poor one.'"


Holbrook has done well with Saints but has also been lucky with his time here coinciding with a collapse in the quality of Leeds and Wigan.

Your whole assessment of Holbrook could look very different in 80 minutes of rugby if for instance Saints lose in a Grand Final or final eliminator to Warrington. I know that seems unlikely but anything can happen in a one-off game and Saints have previous in imploding in big games, back from the days of Daniel Anderson.

I wonder what the verdict on Holbrook on redvee would be in those circumstances?

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Quote: Saintflyer13 "Look on the kr forum about , Livett and Johnson , look on the Widnes forum about Robson , all being raved about .
Wigan giving kids a go. Saints giving kids a go , Warrington playing the same team all the time . Pat Moran played well against Salford the week later dropped so price can play the same team . So there’s 4 players for you,young lads who would give you more than what a lot of senior players are giving you at the minute'"



Totally Agree

Our Youth are nowhere to be seen, only if he has an injury and throws them in for one game then drops them again, look at beginning of year, Livett got 2 tries, top tackler and he still dropped him for King, same with J Johnson and now with P Moran. Absolute disgrace how our youth are treated behind the scenes, they should be ashamed of what is happening. They don't even get told why they have been dropped, its just a case of, right I have utilised you, I don't need you now. Price isn't interested in the youth and shown that many times. The calling back of Livett and Johnson has been utter shambles towards the club and to an X coach. I would imagine that if we ever need players to get game time again, other clubs will think twice now after his actions.

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Quote: AS108 "You say that as though Holbrook isn’t the reason why we should win the treble. If we winthe treble then he’ll go down as one of the great Super League coaches. To take a club that was struggling badly to where it is now, with largely the same players, is outstanding. The impact he’s had on individual players has been remarkable, something that can’t be said of Price. The likes of Thompson, Lomax and Knowles are now up there as the best in the league in their positions when they were nowhere near before.

Meanwhile, Steve Price has been backed with expensive signings but most of them have been flops and despite the signing of Austin you’re at the same level as last season. There’s a reason why NRL clubs are after Holbrook and none are after Price. One’s a top coach the other is a poor one.'"

There isn't a treble.

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Quote: AS108 "You say that as though Holbrook isn’t the reason why we should win the treble. If we winthe treble then he’ll go down as one of the great Super League coaches. To take a club that was struggling badly to where it is now, with largely the same players, is outstanding. The impact he’s had on individual players has been remarkable, something that can’t be said of Price. The likes of Thompson, Lomax and Knowles are now up there as the best in the league in their positions when they were nowhere near before.

Meanwhile, Steve Price has been backed with expensive signings but most of them have been flops and despite the signing of Austin you’re at the same level as last season. There’s a reason why NRL clubs are after Holbrook and none are after Price. One’s a top coach the other is a poor one.'"


Serious question, Will Holbrook go down as a legend if he leaves before the season finishes and you win nothing? Or win one trophy and are beaten finalists? Or win nothing despite dominating this season?

I'm interested what you guys are thinking at the minute because more than any other team in recent history you should be confident of a clean sweep this season. Far and away the best team, everyone else is inconsistent at best and generally poor.

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Quote: rubber duckie "There isn't a treble.'"
Saints could do the treble, LLS, CC and GF.

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Can't see us (Hull) winning on Saturday, we've either lost or struggled in our last matches siince Catalans.

Just hope it is a decent game.

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Quote: IR80 "Can't see us (Hull) winning on Saturday, we've either lost or struggled in our last matches siince Catalans.

Just hope it is a decent game.'"

Funny cos I can't see us winning..so who ever wins loses in a way cos a thrashing is awaiting at Wembley and the loser wins cos they get a week off to freshen up some bodies..

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Quote: sir adrian morley "Funny cos I can't see us winning..so who ever wins loses in a way cos a thrashing is awaiting at Wembley and the loser wins cos they get a week off to freshen up some bodies..'"

I would love either of the two teams to face Halifax and get a battering, can you imagine the apperplext on the BBC!

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Quote: IR80 "Saints could do the treble, LLS, CC and GF.'"

I can only see a double there.

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Quote: AS108 "You say that as though Holbrook isn’t the reason why we should win the treble. If we winthe treble then he’ll go down as one of the great Super League coaches. To take a club that was struggling badly to where it is now, with largely the same players, is outstanding. The impact he’s had on individual players has been remarkable, something that can’t be said of Price. The likes of Thompson, Lomax and Knowles are now up there as the best in the league in their positions when they were nowhere near before.

Meanwhile, Steve Price has been backed with expensive signings but most of them have been flops and despite the signing of Austin you’re at the same level as last season. There’s a reason why NRL clubs are after Holbrook and none are after Price. One’s a top coach the other is a poor one.'"

He will only go down as one of the great superleague coaches in your eyes, should Saints win the treble. As it stands, you or I could coach them to it, it's the worst standard SL by a country mile, as you've kept saying so yourself. Therefore, if you don't win the GF and Challenge Cup double, Holbrook is an abject failure.

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Saints did the double last season, they lost both semi-finals.

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Quote: rubber duckie "I can only see a double there.'"

None so blind as them as refuse to see.

League Leaders - trophy
Challenge Cup - trophy
Grand Final - trophy

that is 3, a treble. ThNlk the stars ypu don't work as a darts commentator.

Treble Twenty
Treble Twenty
Treble Twenty

that is "60" only hit the twenty three times.....

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