I bet there will be a few rings twitching in the back room too ,some of the boys could be joining the dole queue.

I'm talking about over 10/15/20 years, not just the last few. Leeds have won Super League with 3 different coaches in the last 13 years. Wigan went through 7 or 8 coaches in the mid 80's to late 90's. Saints probably haven't won as much as the other two out they go through coaches and are always there or thereabouts; more so than us anyway.

We've got fans wetting the bed because we've had a decent coach who has finally won us a couple of pots and can't see the likelihood of us ever winning anything again now that he's left.

Sad day really but one that's been coming for months now if not the last 3 years be interesting to see how the team perform in the next 2 games now this decisions been made

I hope to God that Moran's has had" irons in the fire" since early May, regarding players and coach. ATEOTD, he's a business man, and he won't want to see it go down the pan.

Smith (for me) has been a dead man walking since May. His attitude has stunk, performances from the players too.Yet the regularity of "Smith Bingo" in press conferences became a joke. The things he mentioned are HIS responsibllity, but nothing changed, week in, week out.

We had more chance of plaiting snot than us getting Top 4, so the ignominy of not even getting Top 8 was his final nail in the coffin. I don't think Moran's wanted to take the risk of a new coach for the makeweight 8, so he trusted him to get us through. Limping over the line, with dross performances has just killed us all. Players, fans and board.

I can't be ar5ed looking at who's contact runs out in October,. I just hope a lot of them are gone.

Oh, and Clark, Cooper and a few others to have a long look at themselves in the mirror. I'd expect a damn site more from an ex Mos and someone returning from Oz with a big reputation. Carrying knocks or not, they've stunk, and bear culpability to the season's predicaments.

Crack on, Wire

Saints sacked 3 coaches who WON the super league title

Well exactly, with smith doing well but failing to win the GF and this last season....i hope that one positive to come from this is that we develop a ruthless streak to finally get us over the line. We have everything else in place bar the attitude/winners mentality of a big/successful club...and that goes for a large number of our fans too.

The funny thing is, there's a lot of Warrington fans bemoaning the thought of a Maguire or Wane type character having us playing boring rugby.

As much as I have loved the entertainment this Warrington post-'09 era has provided, I would swap it in an instant for the Wigan trophy haul during the same period. Maybe I'm just old-fashioned. I like the idea of being Champions - is that so bad?

I'd be interested to hear whether Wigan fans would do the opposite? Let's give a different coaching approach a chance to work.

Exactly. The public outpouring of grief and hand wringing on FB and WG shows the problem in a nutshell. We need to be harder. 8 Years and Money with the single target of winning the GF. The fact we lost 3 finals is neither here nor there. Thanks Tony for the lovely rugby 2009 - 2012 but sorry, you failed to achieve the key objective.

??? Wane has got Wigan to 4 Grand Finals in a row and won 2 of them! McD won a treble in 2015 and has them safely in the playoffs for 2016.

If Tony has achieved that we would not be replacing him. But he didn't, so we did.

I think we all want both but to swap trophies for nothing is like dumping Nicole Scherzinger for Susan Boyle.

I started watching Super League seriously after a friend Wire fan invited me to a couple of games in 2011; whether I would still be a fan six years on if the rugby that year hadn't been so damn good and exciting I really don't know. I can of course understand the calls for a more hard-nosed and trophy-focussed approach, but I give Tony Smith credit for a style of rugby that won over at least this fan of the other code. I know he had to go by the end but from meeting him with my young son I also know he is a very decent man and I wish him all the best.

Look at what I was responding to and then you will see why Wane was referred to.

Bet your life after the two cc wins the main aim was to win a GF, something he fsiled to do. I actually believr even TS himself sees not winning it as a big failure