2 of those were outside the comparison period so its not like for like, but you do make a fair point of course that excluding the fact that Price has literally won the Challenge Cup does change things, and most Wire fans would surely have preferred the Wire outcome over that time period than the Leeds one under Agar.

Back to my point about Hetherington and Agar. Perhaps the answer is in terms of the set up that they have there with Sinfield as Director of Rugby which means Agar's role is more limited than a Wire head coach would be.

The thing that nobody could understand with Agar was why he always seemed to get good wraps from people inside the game as being a good coach, at various clubs....and players stuck up for him on twitter as well when he got stick. It could be that he is good at what he does - in the way that Steve McLaren was rated very highly by the United players and Sir Alex Ferguson when he was in his role with them. So maybe Hetherington and Sinfield have realised that Agar has some strengths and have found a role for him that works and a set up around him that is helping them improve again after a dip last year.

Also, as an aside (one for Wires71 in particular), I came across this on the Leeds website: https://www.therhinos.co.uk/2019/05/12/ ... herington/ from last year when Leeds were really struggling.

Look at the tone from Hetherington in that statement - honest, self-reflective and professional - and contrast it with the type of statement that would come out of our management following a period of underachievement, which would invariably include some pithy platitude about our lofty ambitions to be the best of the best of the super elite sporting brands.

2 of those were outside the comparison period so its not like for like, but you do make a fair point of course that excluding the fact that Price has literally won the Challenge Cup does change things, and most Wire fans would surely have preferred the Wire outcome over that time period than the Leeds one under Agar.

Back to my point about Hetherington and Agar. Perhaps the answer is in terms of the set up that they have there with Sinfield as Director of Rugby which means Agar's role is more limited than a Wire head coach would be.

The thing that nobody could understand with Agar was why he always seemed to get good wraps from people inside the game as being a good coach, at various clubs....and players stuck up for him on twitter as well when he got stick. It could be that he is good at what he does - in the way that Steve McLaren was rated very highly by the United players and Sir Alex Ferguson when he was in his role with them. So maybe Hetherington and Sinfield have realised that Agar has some strengths and have found a role for him that works and a set up around him that is helping them improve again after a dip last year.

Also, as an aside (one for Wires71 in particular), I came across this on the Leeds website: https://www.therhinos.co.uk/2019/05/12/ ... herington/ from last year when Leeds were really struggling.

Look at the tone from Hetherington in that statement - honest, self-reflective and professional - and contrast it with the type of statement that would come out of our management following a period of underachievement, which would invariably include some pithy platitude about our lofty ambitions to be the best of the best of the super elite sporting brands.