Hull were better than us and deserved the win but childs really was atrocious tonight and a clearer evening up of a penalty count ive not seen before. Manu is a red...pure attempt to do damage to a fellow pro..unforgivable. Smith needs to go, he oversees our attack and on that basis alone he needs sacking.

I'm not blaming Childs for Wires playing poor again.

Anyone know who kicks Hull's goals?

Sorry lads, have to disagree here. I don't like saying it as a KR fan but simply Hull we're better, nothing to do with the ref.

I thought child had a decent game. Majority of decisions were correct. You're never going to be 100% happy with a ref but coming out and blaming them after a defeat is just cliche RL support and it's becoming an epidemic.

The big question for me if I were a wire fan is...what the hell was kevon brown doing last night?

It shows how important to have a player who runs forward and attacks....Clark. Why can't other payers just back themselves and have a go running at the line...look what happened when Philbin had a go.

The weakest team we have put out all season, when I saw the bench( three 21 year old forwards) I thought ouch that is going to hurt but fair to them they played really well and we managed for the second week in a row to really scrabble in defence.

Manu's yellow was correct and another ban coming I would like to think because things like that needs stamping out. All in all with 5 first teamers out I am very happy with that performance.

Think your right about Brown he is very predictable now with what he does. I think Ratchford would be better there as he caused us problems all night coming forward.

I've no complaints about the game or the result we are dreadful and wouldn't have won with a wire fan reffing.

But that penalty count thing really got me last night...We got worse in the second half, so why did we get penalty after penalty to magically even up a 7-2 penalty count. ....surely that's cheating. ...not to help a particular team but the ref is cheating to get his own penalty count evened up again.

And with regards to refs what we don't do is manage them. We don't have a Player like Briers who was in the refs ear all game even if he's joking with him or buttering him up....We do nothing.
Like it or not Refs need to be managed ...watch Cameron Smith he's an expert at it.

We are a complete non entity as a rugby team....

Very sad times. ...

Kevin Brown's 'kicking game' was only ever in the brochure.I don't recall him having one at Wigan or Huddersfield,he certainly didn't have one at Widnes and now it appears he doesn't at Warrington.Guess what ? That means it's likely he can't do it.He only kicks because he is a stand off half and that's what they are expected to do.Brown isn't a poor player by any means,on his day he's a cracking player but he just isn't cut out for Warrington.
On last night's game,as a neutral,I thought Wire had Hull rocking the last 15 minutes of the first half and had they scored from the Philbin break after the re start,would have gone on to win comfortably.It's a fine line.

Mr Biscuit, As a As a Salford fan of 40 years plus I'm used to seeing refereeing games like that. I think we get 50% of our penalties in the last 15 when the game has been decided. I've always said that they should print the penalties and who they're for like they do in Cricket scores when wickets fall. That way when people who haven't seen the game can see how the penalties have influenced the result.
If that was done I think the referees would become a lot fairer.
They don't even publish the penalty count as much as they used to.

Ask Eddie Hemmings

Teams with momentum get the penalties due to the other team trying to slow them down. Happened with us later in the game when you had all the ball.

Rather than worrying about being hard done to by the ref I'd worry more about your attack which barely threatened last night despite lots of good field position

amazingly, we hadn't picked up on that... thanks for the heads up.

You're welcome. Always happy to help out you scousers

cheers Geordie